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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #81
    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

    Originally posted by sienoki
    G S
    D being gate/sorce & drain B black probe & R red probe testing on ohms.
    Testing on diode/resistance mode i got on Q813 R-S..BD 1 beep .523 & reverse OL all other combinations being OL
    On Q814 1 beep .510 on same S-D & OL reverse..are these ok then tom so i can solder back in..thx
    As long as you don't see a short it's probably okay.

    Right now I would be looking at a new PSU from eBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fr...36&_nkw=17pw26 around £30.

    As without a scope and extensive knowledge of switching power supplies you'll be spending a lot of time trying to find the problem.
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • sienoki
      sienoki
      • Jan 2012
      • 314

      #82
      Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

      Originally posted by budm
      I think I figure out how the IC is being turn on/off, see the PDF.
      Thx budm without you & tom id be goosed..just getting confirmation whether to solder the 2 mosfets bk in

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      • sienoki
        sienoki
        • Jan 2012
        • 314

        #83
        Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

        Originally posted by sienoki
        Thx budm without you & tom id be goosed..just getting confirmation whether to solder the 2 mosfets bk in
        Tested them areas & with tv off just plugged in i got -1.486vdc & slowly rising.
        On standby -.940vdc & when on -.340vdc then the blue led started flashing then steady then off..thx

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        • sienoki
          sienoki
          • Jan 2012
          • 314

          #84
          Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

          Originally posted by sienoki
          Tested them areas & with tv off just plugged in i got -1.486vdc & slowly rising.
          On standby -.940vdc & when on -.340vdc then the blue led started flashing then steady then off..thx
          Should i retest again or do these appear correct..thx

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          • sienoki
            sienoki
            • Jan 2012
            • 314

            #85
            Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

            Originally posted by sienoki
            Should i retest again or do these appear correct..thx
            I dont want to throw the towel in as yet..getting this far we must be getting close..cmon guys dont give up on me

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #86
              Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

              That voltage reading does not make sense, minus? 1.486V. Do you have the Black probe on the ground connection as shown in my last PDF?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • sienoki
                sienoki
                • Jan 2012
                • 314

                #87
                Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                Originally posted by budm
                That voltage reading does not make sense, minus? 1.486V. Do you have the Black probe on the ground connection as shown in my last PDF?
                Hi budm as soon as i red probe that spot even without the black in primary ground area it still reads minus..the voltages do change with on & off but is minus?...thats why i asked if i should check again ..i left it overnight to do a fresh test & still minus?

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                • sienoki
                  sienoki
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 314

                  #88
                  Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                  Originally posted by sienoki
                  Hi budm as soon as i red probe that spot even without the black in primary ground area it still reads minus..the voltages do change with on & off but is minus?...thats why i asked if i should check again ..i left it overnight to do a fresh test & still minus?
                  Checked Q803 mosfett markings F B J02
                  FQPF
                  9N50C
                  G S
                  D....B-G R-D=3.41M
                  R-G B-G=2.395M
                  B-D R-S=2.409M
                  R-D B-S=3.00M
                  R-G B-S-8.56K
                  B-S R-G=8.56K..THX does this appear shorted?

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                  • sienoki
                    sienoki
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 314

                    #89
                    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                    Originally posted by budm
                    That voltage reading does not make sense, minus? 1.486V. Do you have the Black probe on the ground connection as shown in my last PDF?
                    Budm just tried another reading..when black probe on primary side im getting a reading up & down from .346vdc to 1.254vdc with black probe still touching primary ground then red touching that point you highlighted it goes to 0.00vdc..thats on standby..when on black probe to ground primary goes to 1.430vdc & when red probe goes to 0.00vdc..thx

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #90
                      Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                      So that signal is the Positive, which is fed into the base in one of the two transistors in that section. We need to draw out how those two transistors and resistors are connected to pin 2 and pin 3 of the IC. That voltage must be used to turn on-off the Oscillator circuits of the PFC IC, that is the only thing I can think of.
                      Can you draw out the physical connections of that section, or the schematic of it?
                      Last edited by budm; 03-07-2012, 10:05 AM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • sienoki
                        sienoki
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 314

                        #91
                        Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                        Originally posted by budm
                        So that signal is the Positive, which is fed into the base in one of the two transistors in that section. We need to draw out how those two transistors and resistors are connected to pin 2 and pin 3 of the IC. That voltage must be used to turn on-off the Oscillator circuits of the PFC IC, that is the only thing I can think of.
                        Can you draw out the physical connections of that section, or the schematic of it?
                        Budm while doing them last measurements id thought id check the 24v pin out since ive not checked that since IC fitted..all 4 red wires measure 24v..so i took the shield off & found another fuse F1A/75V which seems to be shorted as no continuity..its got 20 as markings only..thx
                        http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/...5/P1000915.jpg
                        Last edited by sienoki; 03-07-2012, 10:17 AM.

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #92
                          Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                          That is 1A fuse as printed on the circuit board, where is this fuse at again? I thought you had checked to see if you are getting the 24vdc OUTPUT after installed the new IC!
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • sienoki
                            sienoki
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 314

                            #93
                            Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                            Originally posted by budm
                            That is 1A fuse as printed on the circuit board, where is this fuse at again? I thought you had checked to see if you are getting the 24vdc OUTPUT after installed the new IC!
                            No m8 i never checked for 24v after installing new IC..the fuse is on the inverter board..its F1A/76v not 75...should i jump it for now with solder wire till i get a new fuse..what type fuse should i get..thx
                            I checked google for the type of fuse & came across this
                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...18526...should i try the same procedure..thx
                            Last edited by sienoki; 03-07-2012, 10:43 AM.

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #94
                              Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                              Different approach-

                              I'm guessing you have standby voltages?

                              Is there an on/off signal going to be the PSU to turn the 24V on or off?
                              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                              • sienoki
                                sienoki
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 314

                                #95
                                Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                Originally posted by tom66
                                Different approach-

                                I'm guessing you have standby voltages?

                                Is there an on/off signal going to be the PSU to turn the 24V on or off?
                                Tom how am i checking your sujestion..thx

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                                • sienoki
                                  sienoki
                                  • Jan 2012
                                  • 314

                                  #96
                                  Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                  Originally posted by sienoki
                                  Tom how am i checking your sujestion..thx
                                  Can you plz tell me what to check on the schematics..thx
                                  Attached Files

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                                  • sienoki
                                    sienoki
                                    • Jan 2012
                                    • 314

                                    #97
                                    Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                    Originally posted by tom66
                                    Different approach-

                                    I'm guessing you have standby voltages?

                                    Is there an on/off signal going to be the PSU to turn the 24V on or off?
                                    Is that the 12pin of PL802 tom..thx

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #98
                                      Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                      At this point, since the PFC is working, then I would say the PS_ON is OK since the 400vdc is now feeding the 24vdc switching power supply circuits, that 1A fuse on the inverter board is for the controlling the Inverter circuits which turns on/off the Inverter Oscillator/output driving/Dimming circuits.
                                      I use Littlefuse PICOFUSE 1A in its place. You can use 1 or 2.2 Ohm 1/4W MOX resistor for now to test.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • sienoki
                                        sienoki
                                        • Jan 2012
                                        • 314

                                        #99
                                        Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        At this point, since the PFC is working, then I would say the PS_ON is OK since the 400vdc is now feeding the 24vdc switching power supply circuits, that 1A fuse on the inverter board is for the controlling the Inverter circuits which turns on/off the Inverter Oscillator/output driving/Dimming circuits.
                                        I use Littlefuse PICOFUSE 1A in its place. You can use 1 or 2.2 Ohm 1/4W MOX resistor for now to test.
                                        Budm sorry for not knowing which resistor you mean..dont suppose you know what colour bands are so i can look on some old boards..thx

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #100
                                          Re: Acoustic solutions LCD26761HDF no backlight

                                          Sorry, R925.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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