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  • whatusername
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2013
    • 456
    • United States

    #121
    Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

    ok so does that mean i still have to remove those 2 teeny tiny smd caps that i can barely see?

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    • whatusername
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Dec 2013
      • 456
      • United States

      #122
      Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

      Originally posted by tom66
      DE90 is part of buck converter, the IC will be damaged if it operates without that diode (the substrate of the IC will become the diode which will be bad for it.)
      oh damn ok so what do u guys want me to do?

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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #123
        Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

        If the short is gone with that diode out ... did you check the diode was actually shorted?
        If the diode is shorted that is the point when you find or order a replacement diode and replace it, then test the TV.
        Don't try it without the diode.
        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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        • whatusername
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Dec 2013
          • 456
          • United States

          #124
          Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

          well i dont think its bad i get a reading of 175 in 1 direction and dmm says 1 on other direction

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #125
            Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

            That sounds OK, so do you still have a short on the board?
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            • whatusername
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Dec 2013
              • 456
              • United States

              #126
              Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

              no short when de90 and de91 is removed reinstall de91 and short comes back de90 still removed

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              • whatusername
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Dec 2013
                • 456
                • United States

                #127
                Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                guess i will remove the 2 caps now

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #128
                  Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                  So is DE91 shorted out of circuit?
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                  For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                  • whatusername
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 456
                    • United States

                    #129
                    Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                    no in circuit i didnt test it out of circuit but will do now

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                    • whatusername
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 456
                      • United States

                      #130
                      Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                      yes it is shorted out of circuit too


                      but that dont explain how come i still had a short when it was removed

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                      • whatusername
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 456
                        • United States

                        #131
                        Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                        reinstalled de90 and installed it shorts both ways so theres still a short and de91 is still not installed when this happens so which cap should i remove first?

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                        • whatusername
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 456
                          • United States

                          #132
                          Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                          removed ce92 still shorted going to remove ce901 now de90 still installed

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #133
                            Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                            "no short when de90 and de91 is removed reinstall de91 and short comes back " and "but that dont explain how come i still had a short when it was removed" I am totally confused now.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • whatusername
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 456
                              • United States

                              #134
                              Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                              ok if i remove de 91 alone i still have a short if i also remove de90 then the board does not have a short anymore . de 91 is shorted both directions out of circuit de 90 is fine out of circuit.. de90 shorts in circuit with de91 both out and in circuit. if i leave de90 out and just put de91 back in i have a short again. i now have de90 back in de91 is out ce92 and ce901 are out and i still have a short
                              Last edited by whatusername; 05-28-2014, 08:21 PM.

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                              • whatusername
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 456
                                • United States

                                #135
                                Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                                so all thats left is the ic i know for sure de91 is bad but i still short with it and the 2 caps removed and de90 in so the ic has to be causing it because if i also take out de90 no more short but de90 tests good
                                Last edited by whatusername; 05-28-2014, 08:24 PM.

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                                • whatusername
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Dec 2013
                                  • 456
                                  • United States

                                  #136
                                  Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                                  still confused?

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #137
                                    Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                                    If the IC is shorted, then this will not make sense "if i also take out de90 no more short" If everything are removed except the IC and the shorts is gone then it can not be the IC that is shorted.
                                    We know that DE91 is shorted and you had verify it as shorted in/out of the circuit. So what resistance do you get when DE90 is in, <1 Ohm?
                                    Last edited by budm; 05-28-2014, 08:32 PM.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • whatusername
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Dec 2013
                                      • 456
                                      • United States

                                      #138
                                      Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                                      ok am going to remove de90 again and retest.. all that will be left in board is the ic

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                                      • whatusername
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Dec 2013
                                        • 456
                                        • United States

                                        #139
                                        Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                                        ooops sorry had the meter in diode mode lol ok with de90 in and ic in and nothing else there is no short

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                                        • whatusername
                                          Badcaps Veteran
                                          • Dec 2013
                                          • 456
                                          • United States

                                          #140
                                          Re: Toshiba 37" inverter board failure

                                          so i will replace ce92 ce901 and de91 just cuz they are already out problem is i dont know what to order

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