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  • lotas
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    #141
    Circuit diagrams for new models, starting with the “D” series, cannot be found even in service centers, since they do not repair boards, but replace them entirely. Why can’t you read eeprom 24c512, did you unsolder it and read it through an adapter?

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    • Mr.Pc
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      #142
      Originally posted by lotas
      Circuit diagrams for new models, starting with the “D” series, cannot be found even in service centers, since they do not repair boards, but replace them entirely. Why can’t you read eeprom 24c512, did you unsolder it and read it through an adapter?
      Thanks for the explanation regarding the schematic. Regarding reading the eeprom, I unsoldered it and put it in my adapter, which is also soldered to the eeprom, but it didn't recognize it, so I believe it is bad. An interesting detail is that it doesn't have a pin 1 indicator (only on the motherboard it does) and I also didn't understand why pin 1-4 is on gnd on the motherboard, I looked at the datasheet to try to understand better but it didn't work. Anyway, I imagine that if this eeprom is bad, I won't be able to solve it because of the software that I can't read.

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      • lotas
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        #143
        And how do you read it, like an eeprom or like a spi flash 25q40, you can post a photo of the eeprom itself and the programmer log, what it writes.

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        • Mr.Pc
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          #144
          Originally posted by lotas
          And how do you read it, like an eeprom or like a spi flash 25q40, you can post a photo of the eeprom itself and the programmer log, what it writes.
          I can yes!
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          • lotas
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            #145
            Originally posted by Mr.Pc

            I can yes!
            Why do you choose "Auto 25...", this is not the 25th series (spi flash). and 24 series (eeprom), you need to manually enter 24C512 and press "Select".
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            • Mr.Pc
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              #146
              Originally posted by lotas

              Why do you choose "Auto 25...", this is not the 25th series (spi flash). and 24 series (eeprom), you need to manually enter 24C512 and press "Select".
              I had already done this, but another error occurred. (check id error) So as I didn't know what it was, I was afraid to continue.
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              • lotas
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                #147
                Originally posted by Mr.Pc

                I had already done this, but another error occurred. (check id error) So as I didn't know what it was, I was afraid to continue.
                Yes, why do you always have 25, it should be 24, I wrote above that you need to write 24C512, or is the number “4” button on your keyboard not working?
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                • Mr.Pc
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by lotas

                  Yes, why do you always have 25, it should be 24, I wrote above that you need to write 24C512, or is the number “4” button on your keyboard not working?
                  Forgiveness! It was my lack of attention . I managed to read it now.
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                  • lotas
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Mr.Pc

                    Forgiveness! It was my lack of attention . I managed to read it now.
                    Yes, it is damaged, try recording a dump on it, the one I posted here on 24C512.

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                    • Mr.Pc
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by lotas

                      Yes, it is damaged, try recording a dump on it, the one I posted here on 24C512.
                      Right! I'll do it now and I'll be back here to tell you.

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                      • Mr.Pc
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                        #151
                        Originally posted by lotas

                        Yes, it is damaged, try recording a dump on it, the one I posted here on 24C512.
                        I made the recording, but it didn't work. Now the LED no longer blinks, the regulator that was previously oscillating between 2.5v and 3.3v is now between 1.12v and 1.11v and getting very hot. I took the 24c off again and put the old software on, but it persisted the same way. To program the 24c, just load the .bin and click on program, right?

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                        • lotas
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                          #152
                          First erase the chip, then program the bin file, maybe after your experiments this eeprom is damaged, try without it, the power will not rise to 3.3v, is the chip soldered correctly?

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                          • Mr.Pc
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                            #153
                            Originally posted by lotas
                            First erase the chip, then program the bin file, maybe after your experiments this eeprom is damaged, try without it, the power will not rise to 3.3v, is the chip soldered correctly?
                            Got it! The 24c is soldered correctly. I turned on the board without it and the regulator still gets quite hot, so I removed the inductor and it doesn't heat up anymore, but I believe that something really happened in these tests because when I put the inductor in, both the regulator and the inductor start to heat up again. I'm going to change the inductor tomorrow to see what happens because I don't have equipment to measure inductance. Regarding deleting the 24c, when I open the recorder program, the option to delete it becomes unavailable, so I can only load the .bin file and program.

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                            • lotas
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                              #154
                              Something may be shorting on this bus, what resistance on this bus is not low, maybe an inductor (turn-to-turn short circuit). eeprom 24 series does not have a status register.

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                              • Mr.Pc
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by lotas
                                Something may be shorting on this bus, what resistance on this bus is not low, maybe an inductor (turn-to-turn short circuit). eeprom 24 series does not have a status register.
                                Hello! I replaced the inductor and it was back to normal. I believe that when I went to remove it I heated it too much and it must have ruined it. On the 24c the LED was blinking the same way. I did both with your dump and mine again.

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                                • lotas
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                                  #156

                                  I don't know how else to help you...​

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                                  • Mr.Pc
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                                    #157
                                    Since then you've helped me until now, so it wasn't a lack of help. I'm going to try to buy another motherboard. Have a good day!

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                                    • lotas
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                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by Mr.Pc
                                      Since then you've helped me until now, so it wasn't a lack of help. I'm going to try to buy another motherboard. Have a good day!

                                      If you are looking for a new motherboard, look for the number on the white paper tag, it is BN-94-xxxxx, so that there are fewer compatibility problems with your panel.​

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                                      • Mr.Pc
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                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by lotas


                                        If you are looking for a new motherboard, look for the number on the white paper tag, it is BN-94-xxxxx, so that there are fewer compatibility problems with your panel.​
                                        I haven't made the purchase yet, but I'm grateful once again for this important tip.

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                                        • Beard dwarf
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                                          #160
                                          SAMSUNG UE40MU6402
                                          There is no standby mode. I tried to fix the firmware myself, the standby mode appeared, but when I turn on the image there is no. Maybe I did it wrong.
                                          Can anyone help?
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