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  • dfbills
    Member
    • Feb 2020
    • 13
    • United States of America

    #1

    Troubleshooting External Power Supply

    Hi all-

    I had a 12v 12.5A external power adapter fail the other night after being powered continuously for 6-8 years. I've replaced a few capacitors in other projects now, so I decided to replace the 6 obvious and large caps on the board, but this didn't fix the problem. I'm getting 0v out of the supply when powered up.

    When replacing the caps, I used same spec replacements:

    1. 25v 820uF x3
    2. 35v 220uF
    3. 25v 330uF
    4. 420volts 150uF

    Any help in further troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated. Pics of the board are attached.


    Dave
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  • CapLeaker
    Leaking Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 8133
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

    how much DCV are you getting on the big 420V main filter capacitor? be careful measuring this!

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    • dfbills
      Member
      • Feb 2020
      • 13
      • United States of America

      #3
      Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

      Hey CapLeaker- Can you explain how to do this? Possible without removing the big cap again?

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

        1) To be sfae when making Voltage measurement in the HOT Deadly side is to at least plug the power supply into GFCI OUTLET.
        2) Did you already verify that fuse F1 in the hot side is good?
        3) If the fuse is good then you can measure the DC Voltage between the tow legs of 150uf 450V cap.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • dfbills
          Member
          • Feb 2020
          • 13
          • United States of America

          #5
          Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

          Hey budm-

          Thanks for the response. I had looked for a fuse, but I haven't been able to find one. Are you actually seeing an F1 on the board?

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...6&d=1584125765
            It is the red rectangular shape fuse right next to the rectangular yellow cap.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • dfbills
              Member
              • Feb 2020
              • 13
              • United States of America

              #7
              Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

              Thanks, yes that T4.0A 250V STA fuse is failing my continuity check. Dare I bridge that fuse to test? ...while I wait for a replacement to come by mail

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              • dfbills
                Member
                • Feb 2020
                • 13
                • United States of America

                #8
                Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

                While I'm setting up another order, any other components I should consider replacing? I strongly suspect that the large cap was the culprit as it had some small leakage on one leg.
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                • CapLeaker
                  Leaking Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 8133
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

                  Check if the bridge rectifier is shorted. Usually the fuse doesn’t blow for no reason.
                  Caps can look absolutely good and yet test bad. Hard to tell without an ESR tester.
                  Last edited by CapLeaker; 03-15-2020, 11:52 AM.

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                  • dfbills
                    Member
                    • Feb 2020
                    • 13
                    • United States of America

                    #10
                    Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

                    Can you help me locate the bridge rectifier on this board? I'm not seeing the 4 diode configuration, although the LF102 appears to be square..?

                    (This might be going beyond my ability to repair.)

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                    • petehall347
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 4426
                      • United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

                      on your pic of underside of the board rectifier is bottom right . 4 pins .

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                      • dfbills
                        Member
                        • Feb 2020
                        • 13
                        • United States of America

                        #12
                        Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

                        Square "A" or Rectangle "B"?
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                        • diif
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 6978
                          • England

                          #13
                          Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

                          Rectangle B, This video will show you how to test it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqkT6hF0O3E

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...9&d=1584303207
                            Check the resistance between S and D pin of the PFC MOSFET Q601 to see if it shows really low resistance reading or not.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • R_J
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 9535
                              • Canada

                              #15
                              Re: Troubleshooting External Power Supply

                              If the fet and bridge rectifier check ok, I know If the main cap is bad (as in open) this will blow the main fuse. So it might be that all that is wrong IS the main filter.

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