Can a Bestec be made good?

[stj]

Re: Can a Bestec be made good?

start a new thread wih lots of foto's

[mntegra01]

Re: Can a Bestec be made good?

Just chiming in here, I decided to disassemble my 2004 emachine, I don't have the specs with me right here ATM. But it has slowly become slower from what I think it should be. Loading google . com in chrome takes about 30-45 seconds.

I took it all apart and air canned the electronics and washed the plastic parts. It was extremely gross. It has a 300W PSU but again, I didnt think to get a pic. All I took a pic of was the MOBO. The Bestec 300W PSU looked fine. I did notice the CapXon 2 large caps and most of the rest were Jamicon and some black/yellow ones, which looked like a brand I have seen at Radio Shack, looked like it was a 'L' something.

This computer has been running for 10 years and of that time, I would leave it running in sleep mode or standby when I wasnt using it, I rarely shut it down. The glue has turned orange brownish. It is hard to tell how the caps are under the bundle of wires coming out of the corner.

Just wondering if the clumps of dust is making the computer slower?
Everything looking fine with the PSU does that mean it is good? It boots up fine and runs

side note, I saw some Sanyo caps on mobo, and they looked odd, it seemed like the caps were about to pop or the stress lines are deeper and more pronounced than say Rubycon. Sanyos were of a 'K' style also.

[everell]

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I used a nibbler tool to cut out a big hole before mounting the fan. Lots of air flow!

[shovenose]

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Nice job! Did you cut out where the fan is? I suggest you do becuase if the fan has the shove the air thorugjt the little vent slits in the psu casing there will be more noise and lower airflow

[BigTroll]

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very impressive! i love it when someone takes a compromised design and turns it into something decent keep up the good work!

[everell]

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The Bestec ATX-250 12E is a GREAT power supply. I am still using one in one of my computers. The original 5vsb circuit has some design problems, but adding a small pc board with DM311 pwm chip takes care of that problem. Any glue that has turned brown or black must be removed (because it becomes conductive). And of course, the cheapo capacitors should be replaced. Best of all, you can install a fan on the back side of the power supply case, remove resistor R102, then install fan wires where R102 was. (If fan is too noisy just add a little series resistance in one of the fan leads) When computer is off but plugged into the wall outlet, the added fan will keep everything cool. When you power up the computer, the added fan shuts down and the original fan comes on and continues cooling the power supply. So don't say too many bad words about this really neat power supply!

[momaka]

Re: Can a Bestec be made good?

Any bestec that has a model of ATX-xxx-12E (xxx=wattage) has the 5vsb.

You're right, they all have 5vsb - it is the ATX standard after all .
Stupid jokes aside, only the Bestec ATX-250 12E (and only that model) has the 2-transistor "mobo killer" 5vsb circuit. I think Everell and Severach did a pretty extensive research on that one.

[shovenose]

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Lol yeah im not real good at explIning stuff esp when i am usingan iphone and want ro make my message as short as possible

[PCBONEZ]

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Third time's the charm!

[shovenose]

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Let me rephrase what i meant: a bulged cap is as bad as a leaking cap

[PCBONEZ]

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I meant that they work or dont. Theres no sort of working with capacitors

That isn't true either.
Most caps fail gradually over a period of time.
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[shovenose]

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I meant that they work or dont. Theres no sort of working with capacitors

[PCBONEZ]

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Actually no. There are lots of caps that fail without the slightest bulge.

True

[weirdlookinguy]

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i had some generic 1997 AT Power Supply today, it was 230 watts i opened it and IMEDIATELY SAW CapXon Primaries which gave me a slight bulge in my pants and some excentment but then when i got over to the secondary side i saw FUHJYYU and My Rocket took off, i mean this much quality! in a power supply made 12 years ago. and knock on WOOD there were no bulging caps and it works great!

[BigTroll]

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okay maybe i exagerated a bit.

[PCBONEZ]

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If you are getting a bulge over caps then perhaps an appointment with a psychotrickerist is in order.

[BigTroll]

Re: Can a Bestec be made good?

i had some generic 1997 AT Power Supply today, it was 230 watts i opened it and IMEDIATELY SAW CapXon Primaries which gave me a slight bulge in my pants and some excentment but then when i got over to the secondary side i saw FUHJYYU and My Rocket took off, i mean this much quality! in a power supply made 12 years ago. and knock on WOOD there were no bulging caps and it works great!

[weirdlookinguy]

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All or nuthin with these fuckers

Actually no. There are lots of caps that fail without the slightest bulge.

[shovenose]

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Any bestec that has a model of ATX-xxx-12E (xxx=wattage) has the 5vsb. The 12Z and others are fine and not affected.
Do not use a psu with bad caps. It may be serving up unclean power with out of spec ripple. And a capacitor thst is even slightly bulged is as bad as one thats leaked out brown ooze. Its either perfect in good condiotion or completely failed (bulged or blown)...
All or nuthin with these fuckers

[BigTroll]

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WARNING! when a 12e blows it takes out the mobo with it!!!!

you better not do that. for future reference, it is generally not advised to Run it til it blows". especially the 250-12e. i guarantee a 18v 5vsb will fry your mobo.

i would personally find another psu to replace it with. recap at your own risk.

lol, did you see that article called death of a gutless wonder http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=154 its hilarious. actually i took it back out and put in a my old 300watt enhance it has one slighty bulged cap, my friend got all mad hes like the best tec has no bulging caps and you put in one with bulging caps i was like yeah but what about this article lol.