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  • MOSFET606
    Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 17
    • USA

    #1

    Ps4 smps

    Ok, as the title suggests this the SMPS found from a PS4

    Here's a little run down

    I have 2 PS4s

    One system boots up, the other attempts to turn on and the quickly shuts down, SMPS ISSUE

    The good power supply keeps both systems on.

    Next

    I'v measured the voltages across both SMPS, by manually turning them on

    12 11.85 on both units
    5v ~4.7 on both units

    I can't seem to see what's the problem here with the bad supply...

    Current issues?
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 31017
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: Ps4 smps

    attach some foto's

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    • MOSFET606
      Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 17
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Ps4 smps

      It doesn't seem to be the typical SMPS, with a main Mosfet, it has several.

      I'v metered a bunch of components nada, everything looks fine

      I was hoping when I powered it on, it would show a low on one of the rails, but their identical pretty much and probably within specs.

      I looked into the optocouplers and found them on mouser or digi pretty much saying their low quality and not recommended way to go sony...

      Maybe its the feedback circuit, and PWM.

      Was wondering if anyone else has seen this on a SMPS giving out proper voltages, and why a system would reject it.

      I'm no Novice but here are the photos, nothing obviously blown...

      But i dont know SMPS that well, I have a good understanding

      Any suggestions on locations to meter while the power is on to find out whats wrong would be great... Going to check the PWM
      Attached Files

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      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 31017
        • Albion

        #4
        Re: Ps4 smps

        it looks like it has 2 psu's and a pfc circuit.
        the problem may be the pfc circuit.

        next time use jpg btw, then the images will show in your posts.
        what's on the bottom of the board?

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        • MOSFET606
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          • Dec 2014
          • 17
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Ps4 smps

          I'm not exactly sure whats on the bottom, except for the optocouplers for sure.

          IF your talking about the white thing sticking from under, that would be a pizza crumb...


          Are there 2 PFC circuits on the bottom of the board, one for High and Low side?

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          • MOSFET606
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            • Dec 2014
            • 17
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Ps4 smps

            I'll get the chips listed, the little one on the topside 8 pin guy, is power control chip...

            Thing i dont understand is that the voltage outputs are correct...

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            • MOSFET606
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              • Dec 2014
              • 17
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              #7
              Re: Ps4 smps

              Bottom Side

              4 little chips are DAS09, for signal conditioning

              One on the high side is DDA001AG Can't find much out about this chip... except its on EBAY

              Lower side is DNP012A having problems getting specs of this chip as well

              And on the top side, a DNP015


              Going to power everything back up and check their pins, atleast the ones i can get specs for and compare them with the good supply.

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              • MOSFET606
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                • Dec 2014
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                #8
                Re: Ps4 smps

                Took voltage measurements all the chips measured the same

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                • stj
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                  • Dec 2009
                  • 31017
                  • Albion

                  #9
                  Re: Ps4 smps

                  well i'm not seeing any foto's
                  i'm wondering if the pfc circuit is running - it boosts the incoming voltage.

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                  • CapLeaker
                    Leaking Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 8153
                    • Canada

                    #10
                    Re: Ps4 smps

                    try swapping the power supplies around? Did you measure the PSU under load?

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                    • MOSFET606
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                      • Dec 2014
                      • 17
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                      #11
                      Re: Ps4 smps

                      -STJ -

                      All the photos so far are in my second my post.
                      I'm going to take measurements again, and do better documentation on it.
                      I think the PFC is running, i measured the same voltages on both the good and the bad.

                      -CapLeaker-
                      That's how i know one of the power supplies is bad, one PSU worked in both of the systems.
                      I haven't measured the PSU under load, and would rather not atleast within the PS4/ connected to the Mainboard. Was wondering about doing this but dont know what load/ ohm i should apply to it.

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                      • stj
                        Great Sage 齊天大聖
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 31017
                        • Albion

                        #12
                        Re: Ps4 smps

                        measure the voltage on the 2 big caps.
                        be carefull not to short the pins aganist that heatsink because it could be upto 400v

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