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  • Sylvester
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 67
    • UK

    #1

    Car battery charger, no charge.

    Discovered car battery charger isn't doing its job, ammeter isn't showing much activity, voltage no load is about 8.5v dc, not checked ac before rectifier as yet, what ac voltage would I be looking for before the rectifier?

    The charger is a 6 amp with various options 100% charge, float and an unregulated type charge, has a s6015l thyristor and a KBPC1201 bridge rectifier and what looks like some kind of resistor? in the ammeter circuit.

    Post pics later
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Car battery charger, no charge.

    Pictures of the units. You are reading 8.5VDC because it is more likely because it dose not have filter cap, it is basically pulse charging. Did you try with another batteries yet, it may have detection circuit to check the condition of the batteries being hooked up to first.
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    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

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    • Sylvester
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 67
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Car battery charger, no charge.

      Hooked it up to battery on compact tractor, turned on lights and no difference to charge rate, reading about 12v, IIRC the charge voltage should be about 14.6 or so.
      Last edited by Sylvester; 12-08-2013, 07:46 PM.

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      • eccerr0r
        Solder Sloth
        • Nov 2012
        • 8701
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Car battery charger, no charge.

        I think even without a filter cap it should be more than 8.5VDC. Would like to see pics and AC voltage measured, but I kind of have to assume bad rectifier diode pack, SCR, or bad switch at this point. I've been meaning to take apart my car battery charger to see what was inside, it has baffled me too. The SCR might be the clue that I need to figure out what's inside without opening it...

        Usually ammeters are voltmeters that read voltage across a fixed resistor, but usually if that resistor breaks the voltmeter breaks too...

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        • Sylvester
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 67
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Car battery charger, no charge.

          Not much to it, the pcb is quite small, some resistors, prob a zener and a few transistors along with the scr and bridge rectifier, not sure what the ac voltage to the rectifier should be?

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Car battery charger, no charge.

            Since it is 100Hz pulse (if it is full wave) is not going to show 12~14VDC on the meter. But if you look with the scope, it will show different reading that the meter will not show.
            Learn more here:
            https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...b46f74ced4.pdf, page 7, see what the wave form of the unfilter DC voltage looks like from full wave rectifier page 17, 22.
            You can do some experiment with the rectifying circuits with and without filter cap to see what your meter will indicate.
            Last edited by budm; 12-08-2013, 11:28 PM.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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