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  • Francisco.s
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2013
    • 691
    • Spain

    #61
    Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

    Originally posted by ben7
    What voltage is the MOSFET driver supplied with? Is this the original MOSFET too?

    What have you done to the optocoupler control? That may be the problem.
    The mosfet is the original one, the pulse driver are right also. (I will have to check with osciloscope, and post the value)
    I feed the optocoupler with some aditional voltage, from one of the windings, to make sure that no overvoltage is generated by the psu. (an is the only way I have found to keep the controler IC sending pulses to the mosfet)
    I have in mind some other test, I will post.
    Regards.

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    • Francisco.s
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jan 2013
      • 691
      • Spain

      #62
      Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

      Originally posted by Francisco.s
      The mosfet is the original one, the pulse driver are right also. (I will have to check with osciloscope, and post the value)
      I feed the optocoupler with some aditional voltage, from one of the windings, to make sure that no overvoltage is generated by the psu. (an is the only way I have found to keep the controler IC sending pulses to the mosfet)
      I have in mind some other test, I will post.
      Regards.
      Hi, have good news. I have found a diode, (d6) in bad state, (leakage) it is a special one (1N6303A, TRANSIENT VOLTAGE SUPPRESSOR) that is connected in parallel to the primary winding of the main switching transformer.
      I hope next week, have it already repaired.
      Note: it's difficult to to get access to this diode, due to its location. (hidden under thermal heat sink)
      I'll continue posting results.
      Cheers.

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      • Toasty
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jul 2007
        • 4171

        #63
        Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

        BUMP!

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        • Toasty
          Badcaps Legend
          • Jul 2007
          • 4171

          #64
          Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

          @ Francisco.s - What is R83 markings? Do you have a photo of that area?

          Thanks!
          T
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          • Toasty
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jul 2007
            • 4171

            #65
            Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

            @Francisco.s - Disregard. I re-read your post and see that yours is also burnt.

            Does anyone have this PSU or system and would be willing to open it and get the marking from it? Pleeeeease

            T

            API5ST06
            API5ST06-290
            API5ST06-290G
            API5ST06-291
            API5ST06-291G
            614-0402

            NOTE: Possibly similar or compatible units - Apple P/N : 614-0386, 614-0387, 661-4183
            Last edited by Toasty; 03-26-2013, 09:28 AM. Reason: Added numbers because forum searches not finding this thread... :P
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            • noog1234
              New Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 6
              • Australia

              #66
              Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

              Hi All, have similar prob with my sons IMAC 2111. Led1 ON, Led2 ON, Led3 flashes once and then OFF, Led 4 OFF. I'm a bit of an amateur so hesitant to delve deeper. Other forums suggest verify Video card then verify mother board. I guess this is done via substitution? I will take apart and look at the PSU to see if the caps are OK, and after that check the mother board caps. Any other ideas appreciated

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              • Toasty
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jul 2007
                • 4171

                #67
                Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                See: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1018187

                Try the RAM and check the graphic card. (Nvidia 8800GS)

                Go to Apple before you start taking it apart.

                The PSU is okay with that many LEDs on.

                T
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                • noog1234
                  New Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 6
                  • Australia

                  #68
                  Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                  Thanks for the info, I read the link it seems to be a common prob. My son has already had the PSU replaced but now out of warranty. In one of the posts in the link, they mentioned bad RAM I checked the seating and is OK. Is it alright to power up the IMAC with no ram installed?

                  Cheers

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                  • joen_d66
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 57
                    • jakarta

                    #69
                    Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                    hello all,,i got 4 this PS.same problem but almost resolve.can somebody give m11 component datasheet.marking code SPAK...thanks before

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                    • Toasty
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 4171

                      #70
                      Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                      Got one in! Only mildly toasted...

                      R83 code is 66A = 475Ω

                      T
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                      • noog1234
                        New Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 6
                        • Australia

                        #71
                        Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                        Originally posted by Toasty
                        See: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1018187

                        Try the RAM and check the graphic card. (Nvidia 8800GS)

                        Go to Apple before you start taking it apart.

                        The PSU is okay with that many LEDs on.

                        T
                        Well you wouldn't believe it. Today I removed 1 of the ram modules and the machine powered up and worked. So I shut down, re-inserted the ram module and it powered up and worked. Problem fixed...no way tried again a few hours later on and nothing, absolutely nothing...mmmm. No power indicator. I hate intermittent faults.. Any ideas?

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                        • Toasty
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 4171

                          #72
                          Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                          Make sure something isn't shorting to the chassis frame when you apply pressure to the RAM slot or PSU connector. You started with indicator LEDs, but now have -none- ??

                          Unplug the PSU from the chassis/mobo and wait 15 mins then plug it back in and see. Same with RAM.

                          No clue from here.

                          T
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                          • noog1234
                            New Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 6
                            • Australia

                            #73
                            Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                            thanks will try after work

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                            • noog1234
                              New Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 6
                              • Australia

                              #74
                              Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                              Unplugged unit from mains, next day it powered up ok everything working. Shutdown from OS screen. Left plugged in and mains on. Next day tried to switch on but no go, no power indicator on machine. Unplugged from mains, and will leave for a few hours and try and power it up again.

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                              • Toasty
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 4171

                                #75
                                Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                                Sounds like a PSU problem (again!)...

                                One or more of the caps is/are just good enough when it's cold to get it going, but fail after it's been on for a while.

                                Pull it out and have a look. Probably some bulging ones as seen in previous posts on this thread. Recap parts shouldn't be more than $20 US including shipping.

                                Pics would be good too.

                                T
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                                • noog1234
                                  New Member
                                  • Apr 2013
                                  • 6
                                  • Australia

                                  #76
                                  Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                                  Thanks will give it go and post any relevant pics

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                                  • 2lostkiwis
                                    New Member
                                    • Oct 2012
                                    • 2
                                    • New Zealand

                                    #77
                                    Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                                    In case anyone is interested, I had a 614-0402 power supply that was also suffering from swelling/ruptured caps. I replaced all 7 caps with the following:

                                    C4, C2? (next to C4)
                                    original: 1500uF 16V, LTEC LXY
                                    replacement: EEUFR1C152 panasonic, element14 1800639

                                    C44, C45
                                    original: 1000uF 16V, LTEC LXY
                                    replacement: EEUFR1C102 panasonic, element14 1800637

                                    C46
                                    original: 680uF 16V, LTEC LXY
                                    replacement: EEUFR1C681 panasonic, element14 1800636

                                    C55
                                    original: 220uF 35V, LTEC LZG
                                    replacement: EEUFR1V221 panasonic, element14 2217565

                                    C39
                                    original: 1000uF 35V, LTEC LZG
                                    replacement: EEUFR1V102 panasonic, element14 1800671

                                    But the supply would still not start. The PFC appeared to be working (gate drive pulses to fet). The NCP1381 had a supply voltage on it when measured with a meter. R83 was toasty but still measured the correct 475R.

                                    Anyways looking into the supply to the NCP1381 with a scope, and lots of drop outs (below 10V which I think is the under voltage lock out). So traced this back to a mains resistor diode fed capacitor supply that was faulty. It is C32 47uF 35V LTEC, replacing this brought the PSU up but then it shut down. Next to C32 is C33, the same cap but a different rail, it tool was also faulty. Replacing this cap also returned the power supply to normal operation. The two caps are located under a heatsink near the fet for the PFC circuit. They were both covered with lots of grey silicone.

                                    Hope this might help someone else.

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                                    • m1rhodes
                                      New Member
                                      • Jan 2014
                                      • 2
                                      • usa

                                      #78
                                      Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                                      I also have the same power supply, gone bad.
                                      Did anyone ever find out what the correct values for C54 and R83 are? Or a schematic of this psu?
                                      My wife wants to try to repair the board, but hard without the proper values.
                                      Thanks in advance

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                                      • Toasty
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Jul 2007
                                        • 4171

                                        #79
                                        Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                                        R83 = see post 70 above ^^

                                        Don't remember where C54 is or what it is. Location, please?

                                        T
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                                        • m1rhodes
                                          New Member
                                          • Jan 2014
                                          • 2
                                          • usa

                                          #80
                                          Re: IMAC 24 PSU Bad Caps replacement

                                          C54 is directly above R83 (See pic #2 in post #34)
                                          Both are smoked on my psu, and unreadable.
                                          I'm poking around ebay to see if I can find a matching computer with a working power supply so I can pull values to try to repair this unit. May end up with a few spare parts

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