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  • goodpsusearch
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2009
    • 2848
    • Greece

    #1

    Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

    A very good friend has trouble with his desktop.

    When he presses the button the fans spin but it never boots.

    I checked the voltages with a multimeter and found they were continuously fluctuating, so I tried another power supply and then his computer booted normally.

    The faulty psu is an Amacrox AX650-GLN and the OEM is FSP.

    After I opened it I found 2 bulging capacitors. Here is the capacitor list of the power supply and some photos:

    Capacitor List

    1x470uF 420V Capxon
    1x22uF 50V Teapo
    1x2.2uF 50V Teapo?
    1x100uF 25V Capxon BULGED
    1x47uF 25V Teapo
    5vsb:
    2x2200uF 6.3V Capxon 1 BULGED
    -12V:
    1x1x1000uF 16V Capxon
    3.3V:
    2x2200uF 6.3V Capxon
    5v:
    2x1000uF 16V Capxon
    12V:
    2X2200uF 16V OST

    1X16V Capxon

    Is that a good psu? Is it able to do 650Watt without ripple going out of specs?

    Do you think the voltage fluctuation is related to the bulging caps?
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  • goodpsusearch
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2009
    • 2848
    • Greece

    #2
    Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

    Btw what is this thing?

    The last capacitor in my list is placed in there.
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    • shovenose
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      • Aug 2010
      • 6575
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

      Fsp is decent (not great) but they use crap caps. Replace all the capxons and blow it out well with an air compressor. Then it will be a good psu.
      And yes the caps are casuing the voltage fluctuations

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      • c_hegge
        Badcaps Legend
        • Sep 2009
        • 5219
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

        Look at that tiny primary heatsink. LOL
        I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

        No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

        Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

        Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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        • shovenose
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          #5
          Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

          Yeah i always wonderabout faps use of ti yheatsinks but anyway mydead ocz stealthxstream is based of that same design

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          • shovenose
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            #6
            Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

            Edit: i meant fsps use of tiny heatsinks.

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            • japlytic
              Badcaps Legend
              • Oct 2005
              • 2086
              • Australia

              #7
              Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

              Heatsinks appear to be undersized for this wattage, and CapXon and OST electrolytics are known bad units.
              My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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              • shovenose
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                • Aug 2010
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                #8
                Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                Ok! Someone agreeS that sometimes fsp uses inadequate heatsinks and shit caps! Yay!

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                • 370forlife
                  Large Marge
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 3112
                  • United States

                  #9
                  Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                  FSP and Sirtec/Highpower are really good at using undersized heatsinks.

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                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30937
                    • Albion

                    #10
                    Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                    that last cap is obviously on a small circuit board when you replace it you should replace the heatshrink sleeve - it may be used as a heat shield.

                    i'v seen fsp put that over caps a few times.

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                    • shovenose
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                      #11
                      Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                      Is it reall bad to make the heatsinks so small?

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                      • c_hegge
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5219
                        • Australia

                        #12
                        Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                        Yes because less surface area means that the fan has to rev like a jet engine to prevent the silicone overheating.
                        I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                        No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                        Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                        Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                        • shovenose
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                          #13
                          Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                          Is it nice silicone? Lol jk. Yeah thats what i was thiking. But for tue ridiculous price of some of their products, theu should be better

                          Ps: i opened my nearly new fsp atx-300pa it has capxon primaries and a mixture of ost and teapo everywhere else. At least there are no fukyuus

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                          • goodpsusearch
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2848
                            • Greece

                            #14
                            Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                            Originally posted by goodpsusearch
                            3.3V:
                            2x2200uF 6.3V Capxon
                            5v:
                            2x1000uF 16V Capxon
                            12V:
                            2X2200uF 16V OST
                            Am I the only one who finds these filter caps a little undersized for a 650W psu?

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                            • shovenose
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                              #15
                              Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                              No

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                              • shovenose
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                                #16
                                Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                                Fsp psus ar egetting junkier by the hour. They have undersized heatsinks, crap caps, low capacitance crap caps, and are overpirced. The moral of the story: dont buy them.
                                Ps: my dead ocz stealthxstream looks pretty much exactly the same inside

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                                • goodpsusearch
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2009
                                  • 2848
                                  • Greece

                                  #17
                                  Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                                  I did a partial recap on that psu:

                                  1x100uF 25V Capxon bulging -> 1x100uF 25V Rubycon YXF

                                  1x2200uF 6.3V Capxon (5vsb) -> 1x1500uF 6.3V Nippon Chemicon KZE (removed from a dead mobo)

                                  My friend wanted to spend no money for that psu to be repaired, so I replaced only the bad caps and used stock caps as replacements.

                                  Voltages after recap:
                                  5vsb: 5.12V stable
                                  -12V: -12.37V - -12.40V
                                  3.3V: 3.36V stable
                                  5V: 5.08V stable
                                  12V: 12.42V - 12.44V

                                  pc config: Athlon 64 X2 5600+, 2x1GB DDR2 667MHZ, MSI K9N Diamond, MSI 8600 GTS, 2x320GB Seagate Sata 7200 HDD, 2xOptiarc DVD-RW, 5xcase fans with leds.

                                  The psu fan is blowing a lot of air outside the power supply. Definitely not a silent psu.
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                                  • ipo3nk
                                    Member
                                    • Mar 2011
                                    • 16

                                    #18
                                    Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                                    i have the same psu from FSP, 60GLN series

                                    but i replace the 100uF/25v with NCC KZE 100uF/35v or NCC KY100uF/25v
                                    and the 2200uF with panasonic FC 2200/6.3v

                                    thats the only caps that i can get in my country

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                                    • Rulycat
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Apr 2010
                                      • 724
                                      • United Kingdom

                                      #19
                                      Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                                      Originally posted by ipo3nk
                                      i have the same psu from FSP, 60GLN series

                                      but i replace the 100uF/25v with NCC KZE 100uF/35v or NCC KY100uF/25v
                                      and the 2200uF with panasonic FC 2200/6.3v

                                      thats the only caps that i can get in my country
                                      Doesn't Topcat ship to your country?

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                                      • Th3_uN1Qu3
                                        Believe in
                                        • Jul 2010
                                        • 6031
                                        • Romania

                                        #20
                                        Re: Amacrox AX650-GLN Free Earth

                                        Originally posted by Rulycat
                                        Doesn't Topcat ship to your country?
                                        Isn't he supposed to add his country info in his profile?
                                        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                                        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                                        A working TV? How boring!

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