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  • DS-1
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 82
    • Italy

    #1

    Asus X551CA no power and no led

    Hi,

    a friend of mine gave me this laptop (it has soldered cpu and RAM).

    No led, no power with a working ac adapter. I've tried to remove the battery, but nothing happens.

    Has anyone experiences with this laptop?
  • DS-1
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 82
    • Italy

    #2
    Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

    No one can help me?

    I believe it's hard to find schematics and info about this laptop!

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    • meritosari
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 774
      • Indonesia

      #3
      Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

      Originally posted by DS-1
      No one can help me?

      I believe it's hard to find schematics and info about this laptop!
      Photo as reference?
      Let picture speak

      link scan notebook High quality
      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=1

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      • DS-1
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 82
        • Italy

        #4
        Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

        The board is the same one you can see in photo. If you need specific pics, just ask.



        Originally posted by meritosari
        Photo as reference?
        Let picture speak

        link scan notebook High quality
        https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=1
        Last edited by SMDFlea; 03-05-2020, 07:10 AM.

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        • alihomee
          Badcaps Legend
          • Dec 2012
          • 1574
          • malaysia

          #5
          Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

          how the main volts .....battery connector......3v 5v.......

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          • dj_ricoh
            Badcaps Legend
            • Jan 2013
            • 2073
            • uk

            #6
            Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

            check the dc jack
            they are notorius for breaking
            Just cook it! It's already broken.

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            • meritosari
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 774
              • Indonesia

              #7
              Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

              Originally posted by DS-1
              No one can help me?

              I believe it's hard to find schematics and info about this laptop!
              I've got the boardview and share it for this forum
              Attached Files

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              • pcnetch
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 125
                • Sri Lanka

                #8
                Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                Check power button voltage. if present and after pressing going 0v try re-ball pch.

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                • DS-1
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 82
                  • Italy

                  #9
                  Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                  I have 19v on dc jack mainboard solder points, so it's not broken.

                  I have 3v on 2 battery connector pins.

                  I'll check power button voltage, as @pcnetch wrote.
                  Last edited by DS-1; 11-16-2015, 04:02 AM.

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                  • DS-1
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 82
                    • Italy

                    #10
                    Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                    It seems I can't open .fz schematic file with no app (Fritzing says it has the first line corrupted, TSICT seems to work only with .BOM files, PCBRepairTool doesn't show the file, when I put it in FAB folder).

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                    • meritosari
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 774
                      • Indonesia

                      #11
                      Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                      Use pcbrepair tool, when open first time you've got error license, open again pcbrepair tool, then use ctrl+f11, direct to folder you have it. Its done.

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                      • DS-1
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 82
                        • Italy

                        #12
                        Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                        @meritosari, thanks a lot.

                        I've checked voltages again. I have no volts on power button and I have 2.80v circa on the last two pins of the battery charger socket.

                        I've noticed that when I plug the ac adapter on, something in the area of the picture I've attached become very hot.

                        Last edited by SMDFlea; 03-05-2020, 07:11 AM.

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                        • meritosari
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 774
                          • Indonesia

                          #13
                          Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                          where? they have name. LOL
                          PQ, PU,PC or PR, please mentioned

                          try touch with finger..I think you've find the culprit.. maybe that component was shorted/broken
                          Last edited by meritosari; 11-16-2015, 01:41 PM.

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                          • DS-1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 82
                            • Italy

                            #14
                            Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                            ehhh...I know I was too generic, but it's not that easy to understand with fingers which one of those small components is hot!

                            That's why I posted the area: maybe is it a common fault in that area?

                            I'll try to find a way to understand which one is shorted!

                            Originally posted by meritosari
                            where? they have name. LOL
                            PQ, PU,PC or PR, please mentioned

                            try touch with finger..I think you've find the culprit.. maybe that component was shorted/broken

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                            • meritosari
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 774
                              • Indonesia

                              #15
                              Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                              measure resistance to gnd on some point below without adapter/battery plug in
                              1.pjp8100 (19v rail short or not)
                              2.pjp8102 (3.3v short or not)
                              3.pjp8101 (5v short or not)

                              measure resistance mosfet near area that was hot if shorted (Drain-Source, S-D)
                              use magnifying glass to look if small component (caps) was burn

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                              • pcnetch
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 125
                                • Sri Lanka

                                #16
                                Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                                If no Power button voltage, definitely System main power fail. I fixed two x551ca laps in last week. But not this problem. Try search IC number in google will give you IC's datasheet.Then check LDO Voltages.

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                                • pcnetch
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Aug 2013
                                  • 125
                                  • Sri Lanka

                                  #17
                                  Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                                  If heating PCB in normal mode, definitely must be a short. specially cap etc. Do you have DC bench power supply. If you have can check short places easily.

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                                  • Blacktek
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Nov 2014
                                    • 250
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                                    i have the exact same board with a power issue, plugged in no power whatsoever. first thing i checked was the mosfets near the powerjack, one of them looks suspicious but for the life of me i cannot find the schematic for this board..im like 80% sure that whats causing the issue..why? because it has continuity on all pins(shorted).

                                    Seems like the only place that might have the schematic is ***********? can any of you guys get it for me?

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                                    • meritosari
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Oct 2010
                                      • 774
                                      • Indonesia

                                      #19
                                      Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                                      The best tool for working with asus are the boardview+scan photo, schematic doesn't help cause the board without marking as other vendor.
                                      I don't have access to vinafix, but if you scrool below on link @ktmmotocross the admin say no schematics, just boardview

                                      Sorry for bad english

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                                      • Th3_uN1Qu3
                                        Believe in
                                        • Jul 2010
                                        • 6031
                                        • Romania

                                        #20
                                        Re: Asus X551CA no power and no led

                                        I have had a number of these lately. The issues ranged from bad MOSFETs in the DC in to shorted capacitors and the last one had the KBC shorted.

                                        Be very careful about probing the power button connector or turning it on with tweezers - there is a 19v line right next to pin 1 (3.3v). You don't want to touch those two points together by any chance.
                                        Last edited by Th3_uN1Qu3; 11-18-2015, 02:33 AM.
                                        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                                        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                                        A working TV? How boring!

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