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  • pfrcom
    Oldbie
    • Jun 2006
    • 1230
    • Australia

    #1

    GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

    Scored this GA-6VXC7-4X-P by the kerb, complete with Celeron 900, one 256mb SDRAM DIMM and a TNT2 M64 AGP card

    Worth saving seeing it's built around VIA's 694X chipset, their final edition for Coppermine

    Problem is, two capacitors are torn off, at TC23 and TC24, just behind the PS/2 connectors

    Can someone tell me what are their specs please
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    better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
  • Scenic
    o.O
    • Sep 2007
    • 2642
    • Germany

    #2
    Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

    probably the same values as the other caps (same size) around it..

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    • shadow
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Feb 2007
      • 732
      • Australia

      #3
      Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

      Scenic is right. The values are probably the same as the others around it.

      Those capacitors seem to be part of the VRM. In nearly every board I have seen, identical capacitors are used throughout the VRM.

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      • jpdoe
        Badcaps Veteran
        • May 2007
        • 237

        #4
        Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

        I've seen a few motherboards where there's two sets of capacitors.
        Most of them are in the first set: those filtering Vcore
        But there's a couple in the second set: those filtering the VRM input. These are the first to go bad when a cheap PSU is used.

        I would guess a good way to be sure if the missing caps are filtering Vcore is to use a DMM to check if the missing caps are in parallel with the surviving Vcore caps

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        • PCBONEZ
          Grumpy Old Fart
          • Aug 2005
          • 10661
          • USA

          #5
          Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

          Check with DMM and find out if they are high/low side VRM or something else.
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          • stevo1210
            Badcaps Legend
            • Oct 2006
            • 4156
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

            I have a similar board and I will check what caps go in the position of the torn off ones. It's been pouring with rain here in Sydney and my shed is flooded so I've gotta wait for a day with less rain to drain out my shed and also drain the flooded computer stuff left in there.

            Thanks.
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            • pfrcom
              Oldbie
              • Jun 2006
              • 1230
              • Australia

              #7
              Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

              Torn-off caps are not in parallel with the existing ones, which are 1200uf 6.3v

              The board fired up after I put in a pair of 1500uf 6.3v

              Hope to hear from someone what the actual values need to be
              better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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              • Harvey
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Apr 2007
                • 264

                #8
                Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                Check the voltages on those new capacitors - if they are connected to 12V you'll end up having more 'torn off' capacitors soon as the case and half of the internals heads towards the sky

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                • PCBONEZ
                  Grumpy Old Fart
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10661
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                  Looked for photos of that section of board but couldn't find any.

                  My guess is those are VRM-high and probably in parallel with that one next to them.
                  And, that caps on other side of MOSFETs are VRM-low.

                  Can't tell without tracing the circuit.

                  I did find one photo that showed those missing caps but the values weren't positioned to read them.
                  They -looked- from the back side to be the same as the still present one next to them but that's not very reliable.
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                  • PCBONEZ
                    Grumpy Old Fart
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10661
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                    Originally posted by Harvey
                    Check the voltages on those new capacitors - if they are connected to 12V you'll end up having more 'torn off' capacitors soon as the case and half of the internals heads towards the sky
                    YES, that needs checked but I think he's okay.
                    Socket 370 GA boards I've seen all used +5v for CPU.
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                    • pfrcom
                      Oldbie
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1230
                      • Australia

                      #11
                      Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                      Is there anyone with one of these geriatric boards ?
                      better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                      • PCBONEZ
                        Grumpy Old Fart
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10661
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                        Why do you ask?
                        I have similar GA boards but not that one.
                        Mine are i815 chipset and uATX and take up to P3-S 1.4Ghz Tualatin.
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                        • PCBONEZ
                          Grumpy Old Fart
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 10661
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                          GA-6IEML
                          [Couldn't remember. Had to go look.]
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                          • pfrcom
                            Oldbie
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1230
                            • Australia

                            #14
                            Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                            Thanks for looking

                            Everything works with the substitute 1500s, but those caps are slightly warm to the touch, whereas cannot feel any warmth in the ones nearby

                            Would like to have manufacturer's original values as replacements at TC23 and TC24, for peace of mind

                            Despite their age, it's worth keeping mature versions of hardware with late stepping chipsets and firmware having most bugs eradicated

                            Is your new avatar a methaphor for Linux and Micro$oft ?
                            better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                            • PCBONEZ
                              Grumpy Old Fart
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10661
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                              If I was a better artist I'd put a shirt on the bear that said Microsoft.
                              ~ WAKE UP!
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                              • tj2
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 85
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                                pfrcom, I can confirm that the original values for capacitors TC23 and TC24 are 1200 uF, 6.3 V, not that you're likely to be concerned anymore. I have this board in front of me right now. The capacitors in these positions are Choyos. The rest of the caps on the board are bad quality too: G-Luxons and GSCs.

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                                • PCBONEZ
                                  Grumpy Old Fart
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 10661
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                                  I traced out the circuit on the GA-6IEML when I recapped the first one.
                                  It has two 1200uF 6.3v in parallel with two 330uF 25v on high side [PSU side] of VRM.
                                  I've been replacing all 4 with 1000uF 6.3v MBZ and they are happy campers.
                                  .
                                  Last edited by PCBONEZ; 10-20-2009, 04:09 PM.
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                                  • pfrcom
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                                    • Jun 2006
                                    • 1230
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                                    #18
                                    Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                                    Thank you very much TJ2 - it is reassuring to know what I put in would be within tolerance of the originals
                                    better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

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                                    • tj2
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Oct 2009
                                      • 85
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                                      pfrcom, Do you still have the board, and if so, has it been working properly? I found that the caps I put in on my FB11's VRM got fairly warm at first, but they settled down and now they run cool. I assume that they just needed a forming charge, which heated them up, and then they were fine. (They were a few years old from the vendor.)

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                                      • PCBONEZ
                                        Grumpy Old Fart
                                        • Aug 2005
                                        • 10661
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: GA-6VXC7-4X-P torn off capacitors

                                        When you install NOS caps let the system sit at the BIOS screen for about an hour.
                                        That will reform them without putting much actual work load on them.
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