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  • lorins_core
    BlackSmith
    • Dec 2012
    • 551
    • Philippines

    #1

    HP LCD 2009F No Power Almost Done. but After 15 mins Backjob Always Short this Diode

    Good Day to All Forum mates

    I have HP LCD 2009F No power.

    I trace the Problem i found D587 here the Image

    Credit to armand666 Picture


    i Edit and i Marking Arrow

    I replace Already. i test for Burn-test. after 15 mins. turning off the no power Again.

    i have a Stock these diode SR520. i Installed a New one. After a 30 mins Turn Off Again Same Problem.

    Any One can help Me to trace the this and Why Diode Always Broken.


    Update.
    i Experiment Put and installed SP1060.
    3 pin Diode
    also Broken Around 1 hour.

    Pin 1-2 Shorted
    Pin 3-2 Good.




    TIA
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: HP LCD 2009F No Power Almost Done. but After 15 mins Backjob Always Short this Di

    What is the ORIGINAL diode P/N?
    We need to pictures of the whole Bottom side of the board too.
    BTW, those two diodes look to be connected in parallel, so only ONE of them failed?
    Last edited by budm; 05-30-2018, 12:12 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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    • R_J
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jun 2012
      • 9535
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: HP LCD 2009F No Power Almost Done. but After 15 mins Backjob Always Short this Di

      I checked a different picture and they are in parellel, likely the other diode is damaged.
      I would try something like SB560
      Voltage seems low on SR520
      Last edited by R_J; 05-30-2018, 01:23 PM.

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      • lorins_core
        BlackSmith
        • Dec 2012
        • 551
        • Philippines

        #4
        Re: HP LCD 2009F No Power Almost Done. but After 15 mins Backjob Always Short this Di

        Originally posted by budm
        What is the ORIGINAL diode P/N?
        We need to pictures of the whole Bottom side of the board too.
        BTW, those two diodes look to be connected in parallel, so only ONE of them failed?
        Q: no1. What is the ORIGINAL diode P/N?
        A: it is 2 pcs of SR520

        Wait i captured again.

        Anyway I have A question for now. way D857 Always Short if i Install new and Good SR520 Diode?

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        • lorins_core
          BlackSmith
          • Dec 2012
          • 551
          • Philippines

          #5
          Re: HP LCD 2009F No Power Almost Done. but After 15 mins Backjob Always Short this Di

          Originally posted by R_J
          I checked a different picture and they are in parellel, likely the other diode is damaged.
          I would try something like SB560
          Voltage seems low on SR520
          i Update...
          I replaced the both Diode
          For now I try to Installed SP1060 diode

          Oh yes. have already Power up But only 3 Hours Used Only same Problem.

          Backjob....

          Pin 1-2 Shorted
          Pin 2-3 Ok

          Here's the Data Sheed of Diode : https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...241e775e6b.pdf

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          • lorins_core
            BlackSmith
            • Dec 2012
            • 551
            • Philippines

            #6
            Re: HP LCD 2009F No Power Almost Done. but After 15 mins Backjob Always Short this Di

            Originally posted by lorins_core
            i Update...
            I replaced the both Diode
            For now I try to Installed SP1060 diode

            Oh yes. have already Power up But only 3 Hours Used Only same Problem.

            Backjob....

            Pin 1-2 Shorted
            Pin 2-3 Ok

            Here's the Data Sheet of Diode : https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...241e775e6b.pdf

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: HP LCD 2009F No Power Almost Done. but After 15 mins Backjob Always Short this Di

              Did the diode get very hot after running for a while before it failed in shorted out mode?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • momaka
                master hoarder
                • May 2008
                • 12170
                • Bulgaria

                #8
                Re: HP LCD 2009F No Power Almost Done. but After 15 mins Backjob Always Short this Di

                From the silkscreen on the board, you can see these two parallel diodes are installed in a spot where there was supposed to be a heatsink with a TO-220 rectifier mounted on it. If I had to guess, the manufacturer probably cheaped-out on the design and used the SR520 diodes, which may not be adequate, and over time, as components age, there may be something that is killing them.

                Make sure the output caps are good - if you have a capacitance + ESR meter, pull them out and check them. Otherwise, replacing them with new (good Japanese quality ones) might be the only safer way to go.

                Next check the resistor and ceramic capacitor right next to those SB520 diodes - I think this should be the low-side (output) snubber network (please upload a picture of the solder-side of the board so that we can check). If if is, and that ceramic cap is leaky, that could well be the reason why those diodes are blowing.

                Speaking of the SB520 diodes... their reverse (blocking) voltage rating (20V DC) seems really really low. I suggest going with 45V or higher rated Schottky diodes. Better yet, remove those SB520 diodes and grab something like a MBR2045CT, MBR2060CT, or BYQ28E (TO-220 rectifier) to put in place of them. Really, any 10-20 Amp schottky rectifier with a 45V or higher rating would be recommended here. If you have a small piece of aluminum to make a heatsink for the TO-220 part, that would be even better.

                Lastly, check the output voltage of the PSU once you get it fixed again, to make sure it is what it should be.
                Last edited by momaka; 06-02-2018, 09:51 AM.

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                • lorins_core
                  BlackSmith
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 551
                  • Philippines

                  #9
                  Re: HP LCD 2009F No Power Almost Done. but After 15 mins Backjob Always Short this Di

                  Originally posted by momaka
                  From the silkscreen on the board, you can see these two parallel diodes are installed in a spot where there was supposed to be a heatsink with a TO-220 rectifier mounted on it. If I had to guess, the manufacturer probably cheaped-out on the design and used the SR520 diodes, which may not be adequate, and over time, as components age, there may be something that is killing them.

                  Make sure the output caps are good - if you have a capacitance + ESR meter, pull them out and check them. Otherwise, replacing them with new (good Japanese quality ones) might be the only safer way to go.

                  Next check the resistor and ceramic capacitor right next to those SB520 diodes - I think this should be the low-side (output) snubber network (please upload a picture of the solder-side of the board so that we can check). If if is, and that ceramic cap is leaky, that could well be the reason why those diodes are blowing.

                  Speaking of the SB520 diodes... their reverse (blocking) voltage rating (20V DC) seems really really low. I suggest going with 45V or higher rated Schottky diodes. Better yet, remove those SB520 diodes and grab something like a MBR2045CT, MBR2060CT, or BYQ28E (TO-220 rectifier) to put in place of them. Really, any 10-20 Amp schottky rectifier with a 45V or higher rating would be recommended here. If you have a small piece of aluminum to make a heatsink for the TO-220 part, that would be even better.

                  Lastly, check the output voltage of the PSU once you get it fixed again, to make sure it is what it should be.
                  Thanks For Advice Master. I ll try later.

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