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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #41
    Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

    But for the fuse for the 5V which is used by the Main board to blow open, the main board must be drawing too much current from the power supply board.
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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

      You may have active short, see page 59, you will see that the V5A feeds two regulator U4, U6. Check the resistance of the output pins (2, 4) and ground and see what you have, the short can also be in the T-CON board which is fed by 3.3v vreg U6. You may also want to disconnect the ribbon cables to the LCD panel and see if the 5v will be OK, I hope you have more than 1 fuse, you can use 0.47 Ohm 1/4w in place of the fuse for testing.
      Last edited by budm; 02-10-2013, 12:29 AM.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • mikeh1
        Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 37
        • usa

        #43
        Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

        on both U4 and U6, both the leftmost (#2 ?) of the 3 pins are short to ground (using the heads of the mounting screws), could both regulators have gone bad?

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        • jetadm123
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 2169

          #44
          Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

          You may be measuring the ground pin of the regulator against ground, which will show a short. Suggest to download the datasheet for the regulator and compare the pin you're measuring against the datasheet.

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          • mikeh1
            Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 37
            • usa

            #45
            Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

            Originally posted by jetadm123
            You may be measuring the ground pin of the regulator against ground, which will show a short. Suggest to download the datasheet for the regulator and compare the pin you're measuring against the datasheet.
            found a datasheet for the AMC1117 regulator, the pin I was measuring was pin 1 which is ground, pin 2 and 4 are output and neither regulator is short at these pins
            Last edited by mikeh1; 02-10-2013, 06:05 PM.

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            • mikeh1
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 37
              • usa

              #46
              Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

              I'm going to order some more fuses, this time I'm going to power up the power supply board all by itself, to see if it pops the fuse.

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              • mikeh1
                Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 37
                • usa

                #47
                Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

                Just replaced the F102 fuse, with power supply board not connected to the main board I get 5v at the 5v pin on the main board connector, so it seems to be the main board that's blowing the fuse.

                Are there any other parts on the main board that can be tested with power off?

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                • selldoor
                  Slow Learner
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7870

                  #48
                  Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

                  Originally posted by mikeh1
                  Just replaced the F102 fuse, with power supply board not connected to the main board I get 5v at the 5v pin on the main board connector, so it seems to be the main board that's blowing the fuse.

                  Are there any other parts on the main board that can be tested with power off?
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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #49
                    Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

                    Originally posted by budm
                    You may have active short, see page 59, you will see that the V5A feeds two regulator U4, U6. Check the resistance of the output pins (2, 4) and ground and see what you have, the short can also be in the T-CON board which is fed by 3.3v vreg U6. You may also want to disconnect the ribbon cables to the LCD panel and see if the 5v will be OK, I hope you have more than 1 fuse, you can use 0.47 Ohm 1/4w in place of the fuse for testing.
                    Did you disconnect the cable as I suggested?
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • mikeh1
                      Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 37
                      • usa

                      #50
                      Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

                      Originally posted by budm
                      Did you disconnect the cable as I suggested?
                      Just powered it up with the two LCD panel cables disconnected, was unable to disconnect cable from speaker/button board. Fuse popped again. Do I have a bad main board?

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                      • mikeh1
                        Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 37
                        • usa

                        #51
                        Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

                        Is there a trick to removing the speaker/button-board ribbon cable from the main board. The two LCD panel cables were easy enough, but can't see how to disconnect other cable.

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                        • Mark369
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 163

                          #52
                          Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

                          just pull out no trick

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                          • mikeh1
                            Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 37
                            • usa

                            #53
                            Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

                            Got it. I was looking for some kind of release like the other two connectors. Guess I'll get another main board since it looks like there isn't much serviceable on this board and the regulators aren't shorting. Found one on Ebay for $10.

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                            • mikeh1
                              Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 37
                              • usa

                              #54
                              Re: troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

                              Just got around to ordering the main board. I will post the results once I get it installed. Keeping my fingers crossed!

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                              • mikeh1
                                Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 37
                                • usa

                                #55
                                FIXED!! troubleshooting DAC 19M008 power supply

                                FIXED!! Thanks to Sabre504 and budm for all your help AND patience! Hopefully I'll get another 7 years out of this monitor.

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