Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

    Yes, Red probe on the positive leg, black probe on the neagtive leg, be real careful because you will be working on the Hot (LINE) side of the circuits.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • leapius
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 60
      • uk

      #22
      Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

      ok I rubbered up and found:

      340v - stand by
      465v - powered on

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

        465V! That is way too high, the cap is rated at 450V (in my 2407). Are you sure? The symptom you are having is very strange is that the 19V power supply is OK, the voltage is correct.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • leapius
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 60
          • uk

          #24
          Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

          Sorry my bad I just check again:

          ~ 335v - stand by
          ~ 370v - powered on

          They seem to fluctuate maybe +-5v with my tester.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

            I will see how much my fluctuates tonight.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • leapius
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 60
              • uk

              #26
              Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

              Thanks budm, so a recap:

              - solid voltages to inverter board.
              - inverter capacitors changed.
              - with 3 of the 6 bulbs connected they will come on fully bright (for 2 secs obviously).
              - the more bulbs I add in the worse the problem gets.

              It seems like when there is more load on the inverter board it just can't strike the bulbs fully and they are dim on the far side. Any ideas what can cause a CCFL bulb to only half light in this situation?

              Thanks.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

                Your conclusion is right, some how the inverter just cannot handle all the lamps.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • sebr
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 79
                  • Germany

                  #28
                  Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

                  Any progress lately?

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                  • leapius
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 60
                    • uk

                    #29
                    Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

                    Originally posted by sebr
                    Any progress lately?
                    Well, yes actually. I worked out it was the cermic capacitors on the other side of the transformers on the inverter that were at fault. Unable to replace these due to lack of equipment to identify the capacitor types and resolder such small components I ordered a new inverter from aliexpress, which worked fine. The bulbs light up fully.

                    The one problem that remains is that after a while the bulbs will go fully bright and are not affected by reducing the the brightness using the controls. This might point to why the original inverter broke down in the first place?

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                    • GoNz0
                      Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 28
                      • United Kingdom

                      #30
                      Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

                      Originally posted by leapius
                      Well, yes actually. I worked out it was the cermic capacitors on the other side of the transformers on the inverter that were at fault. Unable to replace these due to lack of equipment to identify the capacitor types and resolder such small components I ordered a new inverter from aliexpress, which worked fine. The bulbs light up fully.

                      The one problem that remains is that after a while the bulbs will go fully bright and are not affected by reducing the the brightness using the controls. This might point to why the original inverter broke down in the first place?
                      super necro post but could you guide me to the offenders please?
                      I have a working one to try and figure out what parts I need so I may be able to take a reading from them when I know ones they are.
                      Thanks.

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                      • GoNz0
                        Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 28
                        • United Kingdom

                        #31
                        Re: Dell 2407wfp backlight problem

                        Originally posted by GoNz0
                        super necro post but could you guide me to the offenders please?
                        I have a working one to try and figure out what parts I need so I may be able to take a reading from them when I know ones they are.
                        Thanks.
                        I got this out again today and can't for the life of me figure out what parts bad

                        Did the 3 caps and the suspect on the power board last year get the same results as the OP...

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