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  • bocca
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 107
    • Serbia
    #1

    Philips 170s - white screen

    Well I have one, Philips 170s7 (model no. HNS7170T) on my table. Symptom is display that displays all white. No matter if the video cable is plugged into the source or not, it's always all white. No menu on buttons pressing, only when i connect and disconnect input, screen goes black for a brief moment, and when it should display picture it goes white again.

    I'm highly suspicious of logic board, as I can see nothing wrong with the power.

    anyway, here's pictures of both boards, both sides
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    • bocca
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2012
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      #2
      Re: Philips 170s - white screen

      checked two fuses just now, and they're OK.

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        • retiredcaps
          Badcaps Legend
          • Apr 2010
          • 9271
          #3
          Re: Philips 170s - white screen

          Originally posted by bocca
          checked two fuses just now, and they're OK.
          What about the fuse on the panel board? This is the board that is at the top of the lcd and may be hidden underneath the metal frame. Follow the LVDS cable from the logic board.

          PS. Did the regulators arrive yet?
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            • bocca
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              • Mar 2012
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              #4
              Re: Philips 170s - white screen

              panel board is where the other end of the flat cable is attached? Yes, it was under the metal plate, but I found no fuses on it. Few IC's as far as the bigger components go, and one voltage regulator. Rest are really small.

              No, I'm still waiting on those. I estimate, another week, maybe 10 days

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA
                  #5
                  Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                  They have very small SMD fuse on that board. I never see T-CON without the fuse yet.
                  Last edited by budm; 07-03-2012, 05:59 PM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • retiredcaps
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                      • Apr 2010
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                      #6
                      Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                      Post a pic of the panel board.
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                        • bocca
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                          #7
                          Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                          Yup, there is one small fuse marked FU101. When i checked it, it showed infinity constantly (also switched black and red, of course, but result is the same).
                          If it's that small SMD fuse, how the hell am I gonna replace it?

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                            • retiredcaps
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                              • Apr 2010
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                              #8
                              Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                              Originally posted by bocca
                              If it's that small SMD fuse, how the hell am I gonna replace it?
                              You can put in a new fuse "over top" or "piggyback" the old one.

                              CuriousInventor makes an excellent series of soldering videos including

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY
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                                • bocca
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                                  Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                                  great idea, and great link. Thank you very much!

                                  edit: I forgot to ask, how do i know what was the V and A of the small fuse?
                                  Last edited by bocca; 07-04-2012, 11:47 AM.

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                                    • retiredcaps
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                                      Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                                      Originally posted by bocca
                                      edit: I forgot to ask, how do i know what was the V and A of the small fuse?
                                      Post a picture of the fuse and surrounding area. Sometimes the specification are printed on the board or there is a letter on the fuse.
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                                        • bocca
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                                          Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                                          Here...

                                          Fuse has "UD" marking on itself.
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                                            • retiredcaps
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                                              Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                                              Originally posted by bocca
                                              Fuse has "UD" marking on itself.
                                              D = delay (or slow blow). U = 3.15A. The voltage rating will depend on the size of the fuse. See

                                              https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...7263e74802.pdf

                                              My guess is that any 3.15A, 32V fuse will do as long as you get the size package correct.
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                                                • retiredcaps
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                                                  Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                                                  By the way, you may find these 3A 32V fuses on old boards. It doesn't have to be exactly 3.15A.

                                                  It looks like a 3A fuse is letter code "P"

                                                  http://il.rsdelivers.com/product/lit...p/5413619.aspx
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                                                    • bocca
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                                                      Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                                                      Thanks! I will begin my search for the fuse today, but i think i saw them in one store some time ago, so I'll check there first thing today.

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                                                        • momaka
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                                                          • May 2008
                                                          • 12175
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                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                                                          Make sure to buy at least 2 fuses. I'd say there's about 80% chance it will blow again and only 20% that it will work without problem. Most t-cons with this failure mode (blown fuse) usually have a shorted cap on one of the power rails. It's actually not very hard to troubleshoot. Just post some good pictures of the t-con.

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                                                            • bocca
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                                                              Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                                                              errr, what's t-con?

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                                                                • retiredcaps
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                                                                  Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                                                                  Originally posted by bocca
                                                                  errr, what's t-con?
                                                                  On large TVs and computer lcd monitors, there is usually a separate board called a t-con (timing control).

                                                                  On smaller computer lcd monitors (say 19inch and smaller) the t-con and panel board are integrated.

                                                                  Your Philips is likely the latter case.
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                                                                    • momaka
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                                                                      Re: Philips 170s - white screen

                                                                      Originally posted by retiredcaps
                                                                      Your Philips is likely the latter case.
                                                                      Indeed.
                                                                      Most of the time on LCD monitors, the t-con board is near the top, under a metal cover.

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