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  • EGuevarae
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    Re: lightning hit PC now dead

    Originally posted by Bishop View Post
    Not Yet, it's still on my workbench. I was waiting for insight from this board but it kinda got out of hand.
    This sort of things sometimes happen around here. We even had a "member" banned a couple of months ago...kind of "violent".This case has a philosopher,not a fighter, so it would be OK.We are just trying to figure out what part of "theoretical,rhetorical,not-real-world-mundane-examples,out of scope suggestions/comments,you-are-not-helping-at-all-to-original-poster" is not getting thru.....

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  • smason
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    Originally posted by Bishop View Post
    I was waiting for insight from this board but it kinda got out of hand.
    That's like saying BP had a little seepage.

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  • Bishop
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    There is a green led on the board that is lit.

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  • seanc
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    Does the motherboard have a 5VSB light? Does it light up?

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  • Bishop
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    Not Yet, it's still on my workbench. I was waiting for insight from this board but it kinda got out of hand.

    I've visually checked the motherboard, no cracks, no leaks, no runs.

    There are 28 caps total, I'll post the cap brands this weekend, I hop ya'll will settle down and suggest the ones to replace first.
    I've got a good selection of new caps, (about 200 total) I hope I have most of them.

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  • PCBONEZ
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    Originally posted by seanc View Post
    Did the original poster ever fix his PC, or not?
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...6&postcount=13

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  • seanc
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    Did the original poster ever fix his PC, or not?

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  • PCBONEZ
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    Originally posted by westom View Post
    The electric company changes a subscriber interface any time they want. Your landlord has zero to say about it. You rent a protector from the electric company. A girl who reads the meter spends two minutes to install it. It is that simple ... if you want to learn.

    Quickly identify those most easily manipulated. Once brainwashed, they will say anything to avoid reality - the "woe is me" defeatism.. Or they will post nasty insults without any facts or numbers. Those others disparage when they do not have (or demonstrate knowledge from) a high school degree.

    Apartment dwellars have numerous effective options. But every option is subverted when an apartment dwellar is brainwashed by defeatism. The defeated deserve appliance damage and protector failures / fires. Another example of why surge damage is directly traceable to human failure.
    Okay, so -NOW- you are saying surge protectors work.
    - Certainly not going to install a lightening rod in "two minutes".
    - And if you did it wouldn't run through the meter..
    Last edited by PCBONEZ; 09-04-2010, 03:12 PM.

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  • EGuevarae
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    Originally posted by westom View Post
    The electric company changes a subscriber interface any time they want. Your landlord has zero to say about it. You rent a protector from the electric company. A girl who reads the meter spends two minutes to install it. It is that simple ... if you want to learn.

    Quickly identify those most easily manipulated. Once brainwashed, they will say anything to avoid reality - the "woe is me" defeatism.. Or they will post nasty insults without any facts or numbers. Those others disparage when they do not have (or demonstrate knowledge from) a high school degree.

    Apartment dwellars have numerous effective options. But every option is subverted when an apartment dwellar is brainwashed by defeatism. The defeated deserve appliance damage and protector failures / fires. Another example of why surge damage is directly traceable to human failure.
    You forgot the 100 years of knowledge again. What's wrong with you?

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  • westom
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    Originally posted by Per Hansson View Post
    Uhh because it's an apartement and I'm not allowed to change anything in it's design obviously?
    The electric company changes a subscriber interface any time they want. Your landlord has zero to say about it. You rent a protector from the electric company. A girl who reads the meter spends two minutes to install it. It is that simple ... if you want to learn.

    Quickly identify those most easily manipulated. Once brainwashed, they will say anything to avoid reality - the "woe is me" defeatism.. Or they will post nasty insults without any facts or numbers. Those others disparage when they do not have (or demonstrate knowledge from) a high school degree.

    Apartment dwellars have numerous effective options. But every option is subverted when an apartment dwellar is brainwashed by defeatism. The defeated deserve appliance damage and protector failures / fires. Another example of why surge damage is directly traceable to human failure.

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  • EGuevarae
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    Originally posted by PCBONEZ View Post
    - - - No experience in the real world at all....

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  • EGuevarae
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    Originally posted by Per Hansson View Post
    Uhh because it's an apartement and I'm not allowed to change anything in it's design obviously?
    If I do I will need to change it back to how it was when I want to move
    Anyway, I'm out of this thread
    Why do you leave,Per Hansson? I grant that this should be in the "Fiction" section of the forums,but you will miss A HUNDRED YEARS OF PROVEN KNOWLEDGE if you leave...

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  • PCBONEZ
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    See, Smack Baby thinks a tenant can have the power company modify the landlord's building.
    - - - No experience in the real world at all....

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  • Per Hansson
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    Originally posted by westom View Post
    Why be so difficult? Have the electric company install their 'whole house' protector. Effective protection only for anyone who would learn.
    Uhh because it's an apartement and I'm not allowed to change anything in it's design obviously?
    If I do I will need to change it back to how it was when I want to move
    Anyway, I'm out of this thread

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  • Toasty
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    >>electric company install their 'whole house' protector<<

    Was wondering when that would come up...

    The electric company here had them about 10 years ago. A plastic collar-looking-device that was mounted behind the meter with 2 green indicator lights. Made the meter stick out about 2" more. You paid a small rental fee of a couple bucks a month and they guaranteed all your major appliances and electronics would be safe from surges.

    The program went dead in little over a year and they started pulling them about 2 years later. Turns out it cost them so much money in claims, the program went broke. No way to determine whether the surge came from them or lightning, so they had to pay for every one of them. They pulled mine after 3 years, and hadn't charged me for it in 2.

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  • EGuevarae
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    Originally posted by westom View Post
    Why be so difficult? Have the electric company install their 'whole house' protector. Effective protection only for anyone who would learn.
    You forgot the 100 years of knowledge. ....

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  • westom
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    Originally posted by Per Hansson View Post
    Interesting that you avoided all the points I brought up, I said I myself live in an apartment, I can not install a ground rod, so it is therefore my belief that the surge protector will do more good than harm
    Why be so difficult? Have the electric company install their 'whole house' protector. Effective protection only for anyone who would learn.

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  • PCBONEZ
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    Originally posted by smason View Post
    Why leave the room? The phone company disconnected them as the storm approached anyway.
    Well, the phones are down anyway.
    Might as well go outside and watch the lightening.

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  • smason
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    Originally posted by westom View Post
    Learn why 911 Operators remove headsets and leave the room everytime a thunderstorm approaches.
    Why leave the room? The phone company disconnected them as the storm approached anyway.

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  • Per Hansson
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    Interesting that you avoided all the points I brought up, I said I myself live in an apartment, I can not install a ground rod, so it is therefore my belief that the surge protector will do more good than harm
    Any connected equipment to the grid can catch fire aswell during a lightning strike, the fact that the surge protectors are what caught fire in your linked pictures is exactly because they are not designed to support that large of a surge, that does not mean that the computer that would be directly connected to the grid where it not for the surge protector would not also be blown to little bits and perhaps catch fire, of course it would

    Next I gave you again my example, the company I help which was hit by lightning in an Oak tree on their property, it destroyed allot of their equipment
    Infact pretty much everything electrical they had, like Plasma TV, Fridge, Ovens etc, everything was toasted...
    What DID survive the lightning storm was a Zyxel ADSL modem, and the half dozen or so Linksys WRT54GS routers
    The ADSL modem and primary WRT54GS where connected by a Swedish branded surge protector that cost $5
    It was blown to bits, but the ADSL modem and Linksys was fine
    The path the lightning had taken here was from AC powerlines into Telephone lines, which is very common in my own experience, and is why ADSL modems are so many times killed catastrophically when they have no protection (Blown to bits, catches fire, and similar end results)
    Both the ADSL modem and Linksys where fine after the surge protector was replaced

    My last question was how this helps the original thread starter, funny that is, 3 out of 3 questions missed...

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