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  • kiddznet
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 176

    #1

    um...dishwasher?

    Anyone worked on a auto dishwasher board with any degree of success?
    They is too expensive to replace.


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  • seanc
    Badcaps Legend
    • Nov 2008
    • 1319

    #2
    Re: um...dishwasher?

    'Auto' dishwasher...?

    Is this just a standard kitchen dishwasher?
    What board, what's wrong with it? Make & model, PICTURES!

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    • dood
      Deputy dood
      • Mar 2004
      • 2462
      • USA

      #3
      Re: um...dishwasher?

      I recommend marriage counseling. Divorces are expensive, you're right there.
      Ludicrous gibs!

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      • bluto
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Oct 2007
        • 560

        #4
        Re: um...dishwasher?

        try www.partselect.com or
        www.repairclinic.com or
        www.appliancepartspros.com

        for parts.

        There use to be a whirpool site that had all their brands' service manuals available for free. But alas the b*%tards made it paid subscription only starting oct 1. I won't help them out by linking to it.

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        • kiddznet
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 176

          #5
          Re: um...dishwasher?

          Its a Simpson Silencio 972
          It wont progress past pre-wash just sits looking dumb with a a light cycling.
          I had the door cover off just a simple looking board, will take a photo later


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          • seanc
            Badcaps Legend
            • Nov 2008
            • 1319

            #6
            Re: um...dishwasher?

            The dishwasher is trying to tell you something! My Googleing didn't get my far though.
            I found manuals for the 850, here: http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~jstavrak/simpson_dishwasher/

            You can try contacting Simpson, but if they're anything like Hotpoint, they'll tell you to look at an FAQ that doesn't help. They might give you a manual!

            In the case of my Hotpoint washing machine - the filter was blocked, resulting in the mini load and reduced crease light flashing, because the pump couldn't move the water.

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            • kiddznet
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 176

              #7
              Re: um...dishwasher?

              Thank you seanc. My machine appears to be close to the 980
              Here is dishwasher central. I love to know what them wires lead to....





              939 DualCore AMD Opteron, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)
              Abit AN8 / Fatal1ty AN8 SLI Series
              3072 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
              ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series (1024 MB
              Lian LI Aluminium mesh case

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              • seanc
                Badcaps Legend
                • Nov 2008
                • 1319

                #8
                Re: um...dishwasher?

                There's two boards, with an intermediate board, connected with resistors? Interesting.

                All I would do at the moment is check ESR of caps and solder joints.
                I'd be more interested in finding the meaning of the flashing light - it means something.

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                • PCBONEZ
                  Grumpy Old Fart
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10661
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: um...dishwasher?

                  This might help a little:

                  SIMPSON SILENCIO 972 DISHWASHER => Model: 52B972WE*01
                  - from: http://spares.alliedappliance.com.au...4_3_10_73.html

                  Parts houses will probably use 52B972WE*01

                  No luck on a drawing.

                  I'm kind'a thinkin' bad transistor, or one not working due to bad supporting part.
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                  • willawake
                    Super Modulator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 8457
                    • Greece

                    #10
                    Re: um...dishwasher?

                    talking about work like we do sometimes. that kind of stuff has some potential. most plumbers/home techs i know their abilities dont extend to board repair. get a few of them as client and bingo.
                    capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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                    • NxB
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1595

                      #11
                      Re: um...dishwasher?

                      Are you sure the physical parts are OK. It might not progress because something else is wrong. The board does show corrosion. Check all connections and then transistors.

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                      • Junk Parts
                        Court Jester
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 8953
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: um...dishwasher?

                        I'd look at the interlock safety switches. Next I'd look at the pump. What about the stain on the choke there? Is it fried?
                        Last edited by Junk Parts; 10-15-2010, 03:08 PM.
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                        • PCBONEZ
                          Grumpy Old Fart
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 10661
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: um...dishwasher?

                          Originally posted by Junk Parts
                          I'd look at the interlock safety switches. Next I'd look at the pump. What about the stain on the choke there? Is it fried?
                          I agree.
                          The was a blurb in the sketchy manual that said the door safety switch would stop it.
                          Can't think of why a flaky switch would stop it at exactly the point in the cycle every time though...
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                          • stj
                            Great Sage 齊天大聖
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 31024
                            • Albion

                            #14
                            Re: um...dishwasher?

                            99% of the time with these types of gear it's not the board.
                            check the pump filter and any pressure sensors - if they have small hoses linking them you need to check the hoses arent blocked by crap or scale.

                            i'v done some washing machines and it's always some sensor or other mechanical part.

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                            • Quasar
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 132

                              #15
                              Re: um...dishwasher?

                              Originally posted by PCBONEZ
                              I agree.
                              The was a blurb in the sketchy manual that said the door safety switch would stop it.
                              Can't think of why a flaky switch would stop it at exactly the point in the cycle every time though...
                              .
                              Originally posted by stj
                              99% of the time with these types of gear it's not the board.
                              check the pump filter and any pressure sensors - if they have small hoses linking them you need to check the hoses arent blocked by crap or scale.

                              i'v done some washing machines and it's always some sensor or other mechanical part.
                              Don't want to sound like "me too", but both these are right on track.

                              A bad or blocked line when it goes to pump out will kick it into shutoff. A door switch or interlock would prevent it from even working. A failure in the "brain" is not usually picky and would not let it even begin to function correctly.

                              Listen to it and see if you can detect what it tries to do when it fails. Does the motor do the first cycle then stop then start again and shutdown? That would usually point right at a blocked or restricted drain, and a sensor has prevented that. These reverse motor direction to pump out.

                              I had one where a screw came loose and was in the pump. Cycled fine until pump out. Then it sounded like a coffee grinder.

                              You'll figure it out eventually, but I don't think you are having a control board problem.

                              Or, you'll call the repairman...

                              Q
                              Last edited by Quasar; 10-15-2010, 09:50 PM.

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                              • kiddznet
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 176

                                #16
                                Re: um...dishwasher?

                                Thanks everyone for your help
                                I got a day on it tomorrow will check everything I can that you have suggested
                                I rescued it from the tip was on neighbours frontage awaitin collection, I think it will make a half decent home brew bottle steriliser

                                Meantime putting together latest board, Fatal1ty AN8 SLI 939 with an Opteron 165

                                BTW I went over some soldering on caps on an EPOX board with my big bad boy iron. Not only did it start without faffing about, but the CPU runs 20C cooler
                                Last edited by kiddznet; 10-16-2010, 02:20 AM.


                                939 DualCore AMD Opteron, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)
                                Abit AN8 / Fatal1ty AN8 SLI Series
                                3072 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
                                ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series (1024 MB
                                Lian LI Aluminium mesh case

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                                • kiddznet
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jul 2010
                                  • 176

                                  #17
                                  Re: um...dishwasher?

                                  Well now to add to my problems the Fatal1ty wont start. In fact it does not do much. No LED display only little red winking LEDS near the GURU pins I took out the 24 pin connecter and hooked it up to a tester and the board lights near the VRM came on with the 4 pin plug still in. The PSU tested fine but no life from the board
                                  Oh...when I unpacked it someone had left off the CMOS jumper. I put another one on cleared this and put in new battery
                                  Just out of curiosity would this board run with that jumper missing?
                                  AN8-SLI 939 socket


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                                  Abit AN8 / Fatal1ty AN8 SLI Series
                                  3072 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
                                  ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series (1024 MB
                                  Lian LI Aluminium mesh case

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                                  • Th3_uN1Qu3
                                    Believe in
                                    • Jul 2010
                                    • 6031
                                    • Romania

                                    #18
                                    Re: um...dishwasher?

                                    Yes it will run with the jumper missing. You have another problem.
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                                    • kiddznet
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jul 2010
                                      • 176

                                      #19
                                      Re: um...dishwasher?

                                      Thank you Th3.
                                      I will try another PSU today but I dont like the look of it


                                      939 DualCore AMD Opteron, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)
                                      Abit AN8 / Fatal1ty AN8 SLI Series
                                      3072 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
                                      ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series (1024 MB
                                      Lian LI Aluminium mesh case

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                                      • PCBONEZ
                                        Grumpy Old Fart
                                        • Aug 2005
                                        • 10661
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: um...dishwasher?

                                        I don't think modding you dishwasher with a motherboard will get the dishes any cleaner.
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                                        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                        -
                                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                        - Dr Seuss
                                        -
                                        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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