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  • ShortCircuited
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    #1

    Need Help Idnetifying a Component

    ZDW 38 SOT23. Can't seem to find the pdf for specs

  • budm
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    • Feb 2010
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    #2
    Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

    May be this one: ZD (W = China)
    https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...91a6652c2a.pdf
    Test it to see if it shows as PNP transistor or not.
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    • ShortCircuited
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      #3
      Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

      Thanks for the reply... The terminals sharing the same side are dead short.

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      • budm
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        #4
        Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

        Can we see the pictures of the board so we may be able to figure out the function of this device?
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        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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        • ShortCircuited
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          #5
          Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

          On a corsair cx600 powersupply-see arrow (Q10): https://postimg.cc/qgxkNV0D

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          • ShortCircuited
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            #6
            Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

            Also found 2n4125...but the package and SMD ID book are both wrong. PBSS5350T makes sense but the voltage on the primary side can reach around 350v dc What does the 38 suggest on it...anyone know?

            The two terminals sharing the same side are being provided with .46v and the top pen 0v by the pcb. The main cap is charging to 168vdc
            Last edited by ShortCircuited; 03-23-2020, 09:12 PM.

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            • R_J
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              #7
              Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

              The 38 is a date code, just because you can get 350v on the primary side does'nt mean that potential is applied to this transistor. The transistor could be used in the feedback circuit or even used as a switch to control whatever is connected to it's collector.
              Last edited by R_J; 03-23-2020, 09:54 PM.

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              • budm
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                #8
                Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                You can trace out the Collector pin to see if it is connected through other component that ending up connected to the circuit ground or positive power supply then you can tell if it is NPN or PNP Transistor; same tracing for the Emitter pin.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • ShortCircuited
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                  #9
                  Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                  Originally posted by R_J
                  The 38 is a date code, just because you can get 350v on the primary side does'nt mean that potential is applied to this transistor. The transistor could be used in the feedback circuit or even used as a switch to control whatever is connected to it's collector.

                  ZD are the only letters designating this component? W appears to indicate country of manufacture.
                  Last edited by ShortCircuited; 03-23-2020, 10:54 PM.

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                  • redwire
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                    • Dec 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                    It could be for low side mosfet gate drive, as the turn off transistor.
                    SMT marking ZDW PBSS5350T PNP 50V 2A(!) low Vce sat. BJT. ZD w-china, 38 as lot/date code.
                    Last edited by redwire; 03-24-2020, 02:44 AM.

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                    • OniJon
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                      • Jun 2012
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                      #11
                      Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                      I'll use the same thread for this question
                      Attached Files

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                      • budm
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                        #12
                        Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                        Red rectangular = MICA capacitor
                        Three PBA 3002/6 = 75 Ohms resistors (marked as 2 = 75 Ohms) arrays, you can check the resistance.
                        Four PBRxxxc = Resistor array/network
                        Two Black disc = may be Thermistor, check the resistance when it is cold and when it is heated up with hair dryer.
                        Last edited by budm; 03-24-2020, 02:38 PM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • ShortCircuited
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                          #13
                          Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                          Originally posted by redwire
                          It could be for low side mosfet gate drive, as the turn off transistor.
                          SMT marking ZDW PBSS5350T PNP 50V 2A(!) low Vce sat. BJT. ZD w-china, 38 as lot/date code.
                          The primary side is not boosting so I dot think the gates are switching. No signs of life...not even stand-by. I have 0 resistance when I probe the PCB G and S traces. Unfortunately, I do not have the knowledge to trace the circuits and determine, but I do have the experience to NOT touch anything even when unplugged and not drained lol. I am thinking 50v PNP..slap one on and wait for smoke.

                          Nearly everything I probe on primary side is 168vdc
                          Last edited by ShortCircuited; 03-24-2020, 06:42 PM.

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                          • budm
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                            #14
                            Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                            What did you use for Ground ref for your meter probe when you measure Voltage on the hot side?
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • OniJon
                              Computer Expert
                              • Jun 2012
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                              • Finland

                              #15
                              Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                              Originally posted by budm
                              Red rectangular = MICA capacitor
                              Three PBA 3002/6 = 75 Ohms resistors (marked as 2 = 75 Ohms) arrays, you can check the resistance.
                              Four PBRxxxc = Resistor array/network
                              Two Black disc = may be Thermistor, check the resistance when it is cold and when it is heated up with hair dryer.
                              Resistor networks/arrays I was aware but had to check, thanks. How do I know mica's capacitance/voltage values because my esr meter goes only down to 1uf reliably? I tried to google the text on top of them with no results.
                              101 should be 100pf but voltage?
                              Last edited by OniJon; 03-24-2020, 08:11 PM.

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                              • redwire
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                                • Dec 2010
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                                #16
                                Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                                In OP's CX600 pic I see fractured soldering joints to a through-hole capacitor (at ZD2 pads) that connects to Q10. Did you fix that? Is the +5VSB alive?

                                OMG this is full of CapXon. The little daughter board uses PFC controller CM6800.

                                some CX600 pc board pics:
                                https://www.techpowerup.com/review/c...-cx600m/4.html

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                                • budm
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                                  Originally posted by OniJon
                                  Resistor networks/arrays I was aware but had to check, thanks. How do I know mica's capacitance/voltage values because my esr meter goes only down to 1uf reliably? I tried to google the text on top of them with no results.
                                  101 should be 100pf but voltage?
                                  MICA caps are low capacitance cap (pF typ.), just check the capacitance with cap meter, you do not use ESR meter on MICA or ceramic cap.
                                  https://technifest.com/technical-doc...pacitor-codes/
                                  Attached Files
                                  Last edited by budm; 03-24-2020, 08:21 PM.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • ShortCircuited
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                                    Originally posted by budm
                                    What did you use for Ground ref for your meter probe when you measure Voltage on the hot side?
                                    Heatsink and neg terminal of main cap as ground*....both provide same result...Tested again and getting .015vdc* today...maybe the weather.

                                    *EDIT: retest gets .41vdc
                                    Last edited by ShortCircuited; 03-24-2020, 10:35 PM.

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                                    • ShortCircuited
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                                      Originally posted by redwire
                                      In OP's CX600 pic I see fractured soldering joints to a through-hole capacitor (at ZD2 pads) that connects to Q10. Did you fix that? Is the +5VSB alive?
                                      It must be the image that makes it look cracked at ZD2, no caps near it. SB is not alive.
                                      Last edited by ShortCircuited; 03-24-2020, 10:45 PM.

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                                      • redwire
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                                        • Dec 2010
                                        • 3902
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Need Help Idnetifying a Component

                                        Check whatever part goes to these two bad joints, and a third could use a touchup.
                                        I think it's a CapXon on the other side.
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