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  • newtothis
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2013
    • 1556
    • england

    #1

    Burnt resistor

    Ok I am working on an ATX PSU, namely a corsair TX650.

    This PSU came to me after it went bang on its owner... The underside on the secondary side of the board was black... after cleaning with IPA i found a vaporized MOSFET and using my DMM found a few blown SMD resistors... Having replaced these I have one last issue :

    There is a through hole resistor that has fried... the bands are unreadable and I have no idea what OHM this resistor was... Is there any way at all of working this out?

    Thanks
  • shovenose
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    • Aug 2010
    • 6575
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Burnt resistor

    corsair stuff is impressing me less every day.

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    • c_hegge
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      • Sep 2009
      • 5219
      • Australia

      #3
      Re: Burnt resistor

      Post a picture of it. Maybe someone here might have a similar unit for reference.
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      • kaboom
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        • Jan 2011
        • 2507
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Burnt resistor

        Originally posted by newtothis
        i found a vaporized MOSFET and using my DMM found a few blown SMD resistors...
        It's bad enough when thru-hole parts blow, resistor color bands, etc. SMT does not belong in "consumer" type power supplies. Completely non-serviceable.


        Originally posted by shovenose
        corsair stuff is impressing me less every day.
        I almost-almost recommended one of the OP's power supplies to someone, based on what someone else told me. So glad I didn't.

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        • newtothis
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          • Mar 2013
          • 1556
          • england

          #5
          Re: Burnt resistor

          I have successfully repaired surface mount components on PSU's a few times

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          • newtothis
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            • Mar 2013
            • 1556
            • england

            #6
            Re: Burnt resistor

            This is the resistor that has blown on this PSU,

            After looking at many inside pics of these PSU's Im pretty certain its the same as a few others in the supply, Though im not familiar with the banding...

            BROWN - GREEN - SILVER - RED - BLACK

            Can someone tell me the rating please?

            Thanks
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            • PeteS in CA
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              • Aug 2005
              • 3578
              • USA, Unsure of Planet

              #7
              Re: Burnt resistor

              SMT does not belong in "consumer" type power supplies. Completely non-serviceable.
              Have a love-hate thing with SMT parts. Many/most have no value markings. Finding a wrong value? Good luck! And as for 0805 and smaller parts that are marked, get out a magnifier and maybe a flashlight (torch), too. OTOH, SMT is what it takes to achieve modern power densities; 40 years ago a 500W or 600W P/S required two-person carry or a pallet jack.
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              • Elysarian
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Mar 2013
                • 200
                • United Kingdom

                #8
                Re: Burnt resistor

                You seem to be forgetting that a 500-600w power supply 40 years ago would have been a linear unit, not a switch-mode (high wattage linears have huge transformers and usually require hefty heatsinks on the regulators)...

                As far as I'm aware SMPS's weren't used in computers until 1977 when the Apple II was launched.

                I do agree though that surface-mount components are necessary in modern computer PSU's but it's more to do with cramming more components into what is essentially a fixed size enclosure to allow a higher power output (I've seen 500 watt units where the only smt components have been on the 5vsb daughterboard).

                Re-reading that last paragraph I do appear to be essentially agreeing with you though

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                • newtothis
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1556
                  • england

                  #9
                  Re: Burnt resistor

                  Seems to be drifting off topic here....

                  Anyone recognise the rating?

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                  • Pentium4
                    CapXon Be Gone
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 3741
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Burnt resistor

                    That would be a 0.15Ω resistor, but that seems too low, can you get some closer pictures of it?

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                    • newtothis
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1556
                      • england

                      #11
                      Re: Burnt resistor

                      Unfortunately no, The one in this PSU is fried beyond recognition.

                      I have had to use pics from google

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                      • budm
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                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Burnt resistor

                        That resistor can be the Source resistor for the MOSFET, or the fusible resistor for the B+ Feeding the B+ o the MOSFET. That low value is about right, but you should trace out the connection to see how it is being used in the circuit since you may have other damaged components that took out this resistor.
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                        • Elysarian
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                          • Mar 2013
                          • 200
                          • United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Re: Burnt resistor

                          if the resistor was feeding the "vaporized" FET then it (the FET) likely failed short just before it popped, taking the resistor and other components with it...

                          "fusible" resistors are usually low values like this but are (at least in properly designed circuits) meant to fail open in order to protect other components.

                          I'm still not that great at reading 5-band resistors (they confuse my old-skool brain) but 0R15 is a "preferred" value so is plausible (depending on where in the circuit it is of course).

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