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  • ratdude747
    Black Sheep
    • Nov 2008
    • 17136
    • USA

    #1

    DIY Dell Car charger

    I am thinking of making a homebrew car adapter for my 2 dell latitudes. After seeing how expensive they are pre-made, I wonder if I can save $$ by doing it myself.

    they both are PA-10/12 compatible, meaning they work with the barrel plugged 60W/90W units.

    I happen to have a steel project box (found brand new at goodwill for $2) that may be oversized but will work.

    I think I can get the cord for the laptop end on ebay (with plug). I know I can get the cigarette lighter plug and cord

    I would like at least some advice and preferably some guidance in designing the circuitry to make it happen.

    my questions are:

    1. should I aim for a 60W unit or a 90W unit? or one in between? I think 60W since my math says I will need at least 5A to do that (not including waste heat, etc.)

    2. I know that these units have a wattage indicator pin. how exactly does the pin function? I tried probing a 60W and a 90W adapter but came up short on a conclusion.

    3. Is this even a worthwhile project? or would it be a better deal to save up for a new 9 cell battery for my d630?

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  • shovenose
    Send Doge Memes
    • Aug 2010
    • 6575
    • USA

    #2
    Re: DIY Dell Car charger

    I would go for one of those universal car adapter things with interchangable plugs and variable voltage.
    That way you can run any laptop in your car in the future.

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    • ratdude747
      Black Sheep
      • Nov 2008
      • 17136
      • USA

      #3
      Re: DIY Dell Car charger

      Originally posted by shovenose
      I would go for one of those universal car adapter things with interchangable plugs and variable voltage.
      That way you can run any laptop in your car in the future.
      they are pricey (well good ones, anyway)... if they were not then this thread would not exist.
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      • shovenose
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        • Aug 2010
        • 6575
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        #4
        Re: DIY Dell Car charger

        They're less than $20. That's probably about how much it's going to cost for parts to make your own.

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        • ratdude747
          Black Sheep
          • Nov 2008
          • 17136
          • USA

          #5
          Re: DIY Dell Car charger

          Originally posted by shovenose
          They're less than $20. That's probably about how much it's going to cost for parts to make your own.
          have some proof? last I checked they were going for $60+.

          and by good, I mean good, not chinese no-name.
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          • shovenose
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            • Aug 2010
            • 6575
            • USA

            #6
            Re: DIY Dell Car charger

            Sorry, I seem to have missed that part about wanting a good one

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            • brethin
              Badcaps Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 1907
              • USA

              #7
              Re: DIY Dell Car charger

              100w Car inverter will run you under $20 and work better than anything you can build for anything close to that price.

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              • ratdude747
                Black Sheep
                • Nov 2008
                • 17136
                • USA

                #8
                Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                Originally posted by brethin
                100w Car inverter will run you under $20 and work better than anything you can build for anything close to that price.
                I had one, my (retail) $20 unit bombed itself... even after a recap, it bombed those caps as well. and it was only a 70W (I used a 60W brick)

                my understanding was that if you wanted a good (not a fire hazard) power inverter, you had to pay $$$ for it...
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                • joshnz
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 969
                  • New Zealand

                  #9
                  Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                  what is the voltage it needs i'm guessing 19 volts?
                  My pc
                  CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
                  MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
                  RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
                  PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
                  GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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                  • ratdude747
                    Black Sheep
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 17136
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                    Originally posted by joshnz
                    what is the voltage it needs i'm guessing 19 volts?
                    19.5v
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                    • joshnz
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 969
                      • New Zealand

                      #11
                      Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                      hmmm I'm thinking can't be that hard to make something.

                      1. 50/60hz push pull inverter with a full wave rectifier with a feed back circuit or regulator.

                      2. switchmode step up supply more efficient.
                      My pc
                      CPU : AMD PHENOM II x4 @ 3.5Ghz
                      MB : ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB3
                      RAM : Kingston ValueRAM 16gb DDR3
                      PSU : Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro
                      GPU : ATI Radeon HD 6850

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                      • smason
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 1652
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                        I've been using the same inverter for 15 years, never a problem. It's one of the original Statpower units. Much simpler than building one for mobile use.
                        36 Monitors, 3 TVs, 4 Laptops, 1 motherboard, 1 Printer, 1 iMac, 2 hard drive docks and one IP Phone repaired so far....

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                        • Evil Lurker
                          Warranty Voider
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 454

                          #13
                          Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                          Originally posted by brethin
                          100w car inverter will run you under $20 and work better than anything you can build for anything close to that price.
                          +1

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                          • ratdude747
                            Black Sheep
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 17136
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                            #14
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                            Originally posted by Evil Lurker
                            +1
                            so you really want me to bomb my car?

                            seriously, all of the $20 inverters I saw were garbage... I know that my 70W Vector unit folded when given a 60W dell PA-12 and a D400... I recapped it but I was told by KC8ADU that it was a fire hazard and I could have killed my laptop with it.

                            I am looking for long term solutions... not short term time bombs.
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                            • c_hegge
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                              • Sep 2009
                              • 5219
                              • Australia

                              #15
                              Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                              I would just go for a better battery or a good in car inverter, simply because if you get it wrong you can say good bye to your laptop.
                              I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                              No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                              • ratdude747
                                Black Sheep
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17136
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                                #16
                                Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                                Originally posted by c_hegge
                                I would just go for a better battery or a good in car inverter, simply because if you get it wrong you can say good bye to your laptop.
                                no, that is why you test with a multimeter (digital and analog).

                                but my battery has been wonky lately... so i may go the battery route for that reason.
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                                • NxB
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2009
                                  • 1595

                                  #17
                                  Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                                  Lol, my $20 harbor freight inverter ran a few different laptops just fine.

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                                  • ratdude747
                                    Black Sheep
                                    • Nov 2008
                                    • 17136
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                                    Originally posted by NxB
                                    Lol, my $20 harbor freight inverter ran a few different laptops just fine.
                                    luck is never a good reason to do something. if you cannot find a lovical reason, don't do it.

                                    I have this thing still:

                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ght=vector+70W

                                    but i don't want to burn down the car or the laptop.
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                                    • weirdlookinguy
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                                      • Sep 2007
                                      • 1638

                                      #19
                                      Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                                      You're overthinking this. $60 isn't that much if it's something you really need (I'm talking about the universal car adapter).

                                      The homebrew solution will be extremely clunky and a pain in the ass to plug in every time you want to use it which means you'll use it less. When all is said and done I'd be willing to put down money that the total for a homebrew will come close to or exceed the cost of a real universal adapter.

                                      If you want to make the homebrew as a fun side project (you are an EE major after all), go for it. But if it's for practical purposes then just buy the real thing and carry on with life. Shit like this is not worth stressing about.

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                                      • ratdude747
                                        Black Sheep
                                        • Nov 2008
                                        • 17136
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: DIY Dell Car charger

                                        it was both a side project and a pratical project.
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