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  • DavidOH
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 105
    • USA

    #1

    Fluke 83 iii leads melted

    I saw a Fluke 83 iii in a pawn shop for $79. Other than needing cleaned the leads had melt marks on the metal tips. If I can get them to come down on the price I may go for it if you think the meter itself would be ok. Otherwise I'm looking at meters from Craftsman at Sears. I checked them out and they are rebranded Extech. And yes I've read every post in here on meters. So I know how most of you feel about Fluke. Don't wanna stir up the meter debate but I have to ask.
  • retiredcaps
    Badcaps Legend
    • Apr 2010
    • 9271

    #2
    Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

    Originally posted by DavidOH
    I saw a Fluke 83 iii in a pawn shop for $79. Other than needing cleaned the leads had melt marks on the metal tips. If I can get them to come down on the price I may go for it if you think the meter itself would be ok.
    I had a Fluke 83 III and it is a great, fast multimeter.

    $79 is above average on the resale market.

    A more realistic price, using ebay as a "fair market" value, would be around the $60 range. However, if the lcd display is not scratched up and the holster is clean with no markings, then you pay a bit more.

    You should read this Fluke guide (especially the "QUESTIONS TO ASK SELLERS")

    http://reviews.ebay.com/Fluke-Meters...00000007231862

    and

    http://reviews.ebay.com/Fluke-Multim...00000007491382

    Questions 8 and 9 are mandatory checks. I have been burned by sellers by describing the multimeter "works perfectly" only to find out the fuses are blown. Replacement fuses are $8 to $12 each.

    I also suggest you test every range. Take some known components like 9V battery, resistor, diode, capacitor, etc with you to verify that it is working. See if they will also let you open and inspect the insides for any obvious damage (take a philips screw driver with you).

    Ask the pawn shop if they have a 7 or 30 day warranty.
    Last edited by retiredcaps; 12-15-2012, 03:54 AM.
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    • DavidOH
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 105
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

      Thanks that was good info. The fuse test is what will be needed due to the melt marks on the leads. I'm finding the ebay prices a bit high for what I'll be using it for. I'm just doing lcd/plasma repair for fun/hobby. I know the esr meter is going to run about $100. So it's a little hard to justify that much for a DMM. That's why I've been reading till my brain locks up on this forum.

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      • redwire
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2010
        • 3910
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

        A guy wanted to confirm his wall outlet was 15 amps, so he put his multimeter on amps and stuck the probes in the socket... It was impossible to explain the concept of current to the guy and he demanded a refund on the meter... It melted traces on the meter's pcb and roasted the rotary switch.

        Fluke meters use special fuses to prevent this, so it should have survived unless the fuses were "bypassed".

        Fluke service manuals 83 85 87 pdf

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        • retiredcaps
          Badcaps Legend
          • Apr 2010
          • 9271

          #5
          Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

          Originally posted by DavidOH
          I'm just doing lcd/plasma repair for fun/hobby. I know the esr meter is going to run about $100.
          I would say that a multimeter is way more useful in troubleshooting lcd/plasmas. While an ESR meter is useful, you will find that a good multimeter is used way more for repairs.

          I personally can't justify $100 for an ESR meter for a hobby. I can buy a lot of quality caps and "shotgun" before the investment in an ESR is repaid. Now, if I'm a professional repair TV tech, then yes I think having an ESR meter is mandatory along with a good multimeter.

          I'm no expert in plasma repairs, but if you read a lot of the threads here, it is more about board replacement than component level repair.
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          • retiredcaps
            Badcaps Legend
            • Apr 2010
            • 9271

            #6
            Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

            Originally posted by redwire
            Fluke meters use special fuses to prevent this, so it should have survived unless the fuses were "bypassed".
            See

            http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/ho...-a-multimeter/

            for what some people do.
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            • Jack Crow
              It's a CLASOB!
              • May 2008
              • 823
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

              Team,
              Ages ago I used to fix instruments. Back then Beckman meters were popular.

              Anyhow, got in a Simpson 260 analog meter that belonged to the Long Island Rail Road.

              It had a smell about it. Not armpit but more like an electrical fire.
              The meter pointer was bent about 40 degrees.

              Nothing worked on this meter.

              Opened the cover and discovered the interior was totally black with carbon.

              Seems some idiot tried to measure the resistance of the trains third rail.
              600 vdc at 10000 amps!

              The meter did not survive.

              One more thing to add, when you visit your pawn dealer again, bring an extra set of batteries for the meter it's self.
              I would be highly suspect of anything with melted wires. Takes a lot of amps to ruin a test lead.

              Much luck.
              Jack Crow in VA
              "You are, what you do, when it counts"
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              • DavidOH
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 105
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

                Originally posted by Jack Crow
                I would be highly suspect of anything with melted wires. Takes a lot of amps to ruin a test lead.
                Jack Crow in VA
                That's what I was thinking.

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                • Kiriakos GR
                  Banned
                  • May 2012
                  • 940
                  • Greece

                  #9
                  Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

                  The sorted leads is not uncommon accident to automotive repairs or even at the mains electrical measurements (just the leads tips touching its other ).
                  This is why the 2mm ones with fully exposed tips are banned from this March (2012) worldwide.
                  The CAT IV ones (covered tips) is the new standard, and conversations like this is the last ones that we do, due the fact that with the new test leads such events will never happen again.

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                  • delaware74b
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 628
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

                    This post may be slightly OT, I use the Ideal 61-340 for electrical work as well as electronics work. It's reasonably accurate and will read caps to 3300uF (although it take 20-30 seconds to read ones that large).

                    It is available locally at Lowe's for around $60USD. It also includes a K-type thermocouple temperature probe. Fully fused and Cat III insulated.
                    Attached Files
                    Stupidity should be a crime, especially for drivers. I have NO patience for them.

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                    • retiredcaps
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 9271

                      #11
                      Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

                      Originally posted by delaware74b
                      This post may be slightly OT, I use the Ideal 61-340 for electrical work as well as electronics work.
                      The Ideal 61-342 (True RMS version of 61-340) was reviewed by Dave Jones at

                      http://www.eevblog.com/2010/07/11/ee...i-t-part-1of2/

                      http://www.eevblog.com/2010/07/11/ee...i-t-part-2of2/

                      PS. One retiredcaps' bonus point for a picture of your multimeter.
                      Last edited by retiredcaps; 12-16-2012, 05:09 PM.
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                      • retiredcaps
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 9271

                        #12
                        Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

                        61-340 reviews at

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtmtSyx5Yjg

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GirQTJkhbzY
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                        • Blargh523
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                          • Dec 2012
                          • 46
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                          #13
                          Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

                          My quick $0.02 -- pawnshops horribly overcharge for things that are in thrift-store condition.

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                          • retiredcaps
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9271

                            #14
                            Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

                            Originally posted by Blargh523
                            My quick $0.02 -- pawnshops horribly overcharge for things that are in thrift-store condition.
                            Not always. Here is a recent post

                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24239

                            where LDSisHere got a Fluke 77 IV for $39.

                            Obviously, your mileage may vary.
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                            • Blargh523
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                              • Dec 2012
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                              #15
                              Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

                              Originally posted by retiredcaps
                              Not always. Here is a recent post

                              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24239

                              where LDSisHere got a Fluke 77 IV for $39.

                              Obviously, your mileage may vary.
                              Okay, I'll add the disclaimer that it might only apply to pawnshops in my general vicinity.

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                              • retiredcaps
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                                • Apr 2010
                                • 9271

                                #16
                                Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

                                The $35 Fluke 77 IVs without the battery case came from ebay seller buybest15 based Tucson, Arizona, United States.

                                http://myworld.ebay.com/buybest15/
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                                • DavidOH
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                                  • May 2012
                                  • 105
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Fluke 83 iii leads melted

                                  Originally posted by Blargh523
                                  My quick $0.02 -- pawnshops horribly overcharge for things that are in thrift-store condition.
                                  Around here it's the same from what I've seen. And about 98% of the people on Craigslist think what they have is worth more than it is.

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