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  • SkOrPn
    Member
    • Oct 2017
    • 14
    • United States

    #81
    Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

    Originally posted by momaka
    That's a very interesting idea SkOrPn. Technically... or as far as I know... those CCFLs have similar voltage and current requirements, so you might be able to use one to test a monitor inverter. I'm actually very curious if that will work, as there's a computer store near me selling an UV CCFL kit (2 lamps + inverter) for $4 total. Sounds like a good deal to me.

    Now, as far as replacing the CCFLs in a monitor with UV CCFLs - I don't know about that. Most likely the colors would be way off or not there at all, as you need a white backlight. And also, a CCFL like that probably won't fit inside a monitor.
    Haha, well I wasn't thinking of putting that UV in my monitor. I was just wondering if the Dells inverter would fire it up. I already have some CFL (twisted bulbs) to use, but that UV tube one already has proper wires attached.

    I know my video board needs caps, and my psu is probably still OK although should get news caps for the heck of it anyway, but I don't know if the inverter is OK or not. I don't even know how to remove the CCFL's. I was thinking about testing them on one of my Inverters I have for custom PC use, if that will work but I don't know. Either way I need to verify that the inverter and CCFL's are OK before I plan to fix anything else.

    Still in research mode for that task.

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    • rddube
      Aspiring Expert
      • Jun 2013
      • 908
      • Canada

      #82
      Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

      Hey Budm,

      I have a few of these lights, do you think I could use them without having to open them?

      They are sold at home depot for 4.97$

      Tks!
      Attached Files

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      • Agent24
        I see dead caps
        • Oct 2007
        • 4913
        • New Zealand

        #83
        Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

        You could use those directly, yes.

        Just bear in mind that they may not last as long as they would when used with the correct inverter, I think the monitor inverters drive a higher voltage as their CCFL tubes are longer, so the test lamps may fail faster. That's what I experienced anyway - although I was using scavenged tubes from CFL lamps which may have been near their end of life already...
        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
        -David VanHorn

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #84
          Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

          Bad lamps and bad wiring.
          Attached Files
          Never stop learning
          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

          Inverter testing using old CFL:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

          TV Factory reset codes listing:
          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #85
            Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

            Bad lamps and bad wiring ii.
            Attached Files
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • momaka
              master hoarder
              • May 2008
              • 12164
              • Bulgaria

              #86
              Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

              Originally posted by budm
              Bad lamps and bad wiring.


              ^^ OH MY.... ^^
              How many thousands of LCD monitors have you fixed to collect all that?

              Gee. To think I already had second thoughts of doing a lamp replacement after I did my first, because I thought it was so "involved".

              My deepest respects and hat off to you sir! You have quite the patience and skill.

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              • MATRIX COMPUTERS
                Member
                • Dec 2018
                • 11
                • tanta

                #87
                Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

                thanks a lot it is a useful idea....

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                • kart24
                  New Member
                  • Dec 2018
                  • 4
                  • india

                  #88
                  Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

                  Can I be able to use this technique in following picture, where there is only lead out from the master and slave as in the picture.

                  will there be any circuit or capacitors underneath?

                  this is a old 32 inch , lg 32lh60yr. backiight sometimes stays on varying intervals,sometimes just flashes just for a second. and want to determine inverter or lamps that is bust.

                  panel : lc320wud

                  inverter board : LG 6632L-0548A

                  thanks for the help

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                  • kart24
                    New Member
                    • Dec 2018
                    • 4
                    • india

                    #89
                    Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

                    Originally posted by kart24
                    Can I be able to use this technique in following picture, where there is only lead out from the master and slave as in the picture.

                    will there be any circuit or capacitors underneath?

                    this is a old 32 inch , lg 32lh60yr. backiight sometimes stays on varying intervals,sometimes just flashes just for a second. and want to determine inverter or lamps that is bust.

                    panel : lc320wud

                    inverter board : LG 6632L-0548A

                    thanks for the help
                    with attachment this time
                    Attached Files

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                    • momaka
                      master hoarder
                      • May 2008
                      • 12164
                      • Bulgaria

                      #90
                      Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

                      Originally posted by kart24
                      Can I be able to use this technique in following picture, where there is only lead out from the master and slave as in the picture.
                      Can't say for sure. You would have to trace how the CCFLs inside the LCD are connected. Perhaps someone who've seen this might know better. But from what I can guess, there are two possibilities: either each CCFL inside the LCD is connected to ground (or perhaps another grounding circuit) -or- two CCFLs are in series and there is no connection to ground anywhere.

                      If it's the latter, I'm not sure if a regular CFL would be okay or not, as the voltage might be much higher. And if it's the former, then it becomes a question of where/what circuit the CFL should be grounded to.

                      Thus, I think you might need to make a new thread on this, open up the LCD screen so that you can trace how the CCFLs are connected inside, and post pictures there. That should allows for a more definitive answer, I think... of course, unless someone has seen this before and can tell you for sure.

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                      • Agent24
                        I see dead caps
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4913
                        • New Zealand

                        #91
                        Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

                        Perhaps if you trace out how the output windings of the transformers are connected it will give you some clues?
                        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                        -David VanHorn

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                        • Lapy
                          Member
                          • Dec 2018
                          • 15
                          • algeria

                          #92
                          Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

                          Many thanks

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                          • alepol
                            New Member
                            • Mar 2020
                            • 8
                            • france

                            #93
                            Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

                            Hello every body,
                            I m French so please excuse me for my not excellent english.
                            I have an LCD TV Samsung LE37B530 with BN44-00301 Power Board and i have an issue with Backligh.
                            The Bakligh always Blink, with or without connection to main board.
                            I read and read again the post here but nothing.
                            I try with a CFL and is lighting 5 second and stop but no Blinking

                            Thanks for you help and KEEP AT HOME .
                            Regards

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                            • ekjdm14
                              New Member
                              • Apr 2020
                              • 5
                              • United Kingdom

                              #94
                              Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

                              It could be that the CFL is drawing slightly less/more current than your backlight tubes would, hence it's still going into protection but taking slightly longer to do so? Just a guess but seems possible given the arrangement of the lamps in this set.

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                              • bob2weed
                                New Member
                                • Jun 2021
                                • 1
                                • Brasil

                                #95
                                Re: Inverter tester using old CFL

                                Can I test other LCD screens in the place of the original?

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