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  • Captain Blu Ballz
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    • Sep 2016
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    #1

    Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

    I'm not sure that the voltage is correct coming off of my power supply board to power the LEDs. There are 4 wires going to the LEDs off of the power supply board and they are marked S+,S-,D+,D-. Testing each terminal to ground is as follows: D+=410vdc, D-=0vdc, S+=7vdc, S-=7vdc. I thought that 410vdc was a little excessive so I purchased another power supply board and I get the same voltages and still no backlight. The tcon board was replaced too as well as the main board (it was a bundled deal). Before I tear into the panel to check the LEDs does anybody have any knowledge of the proper voltages I should be getting at the connector? Thanks for your help
  • dick_barton
    Badcaps Legend
    • Aug 2015
    • 6642
    • Wales

    #2
    Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

    I believe there's a legend on the power supply board giving the voltage for the Led connector (CN802) but I can't read it in google photo's.

    Edit
    Pictures of your boards would prove helpful
    The one capacitor close to the connector looks like its marked as 500V 22uF.
    Last edited by dick_barton; 09-14-2016, 03:49 AM.
    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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    • stj
      Great Sage 齊天大聖
      • Dec 2009
      • 30932
      • Albion

      #3
      Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

      there are no proper voltages, led's are current-drive.
      the psu should vary the voltage to regulate the current to the led's

      you see it's maximum output probably because the led's are open-circuit or not connected - and so are not drawing any current.

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      • CapLeaker
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        • Dec 2014
        • 7986
        • Canada

        #4
        Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

        Originally posted by stj
        there are no proper voltages, led's are current-drive.
        The psu should vary the voltage to regulate the current to the led's

        you see it's maximum output probably because the led's are open-circuit or not connected - and so are not drawing any current.
        +1

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        • stj
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          • Dec 2009
          • 30932
          • Albion

          #5
          Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

          not sure what the S lines are btw, maybe for a temperature sensor or something!

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          • ReeceyBurger123
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            • May 2014
            • 7325
            • Britain

            #6
            Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

            Originally posted by stj
            there are no proper voltages, led's are current-drive.
            The psu should vary the voltage to regulate the current to the led's

            you see it's maximum output probably because the led's are open-circuit or not connected - and so are not drawing any current.
            +1
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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

              You have open circuit in the LED string.
              Is this your board?
              Samsung BN44-00669A.
              D+ is the Anode which the boosted Voltage is fed to the LED string, D- is the Cathode which is the return lien of the LED string and is connected to the PWM Control power MOSFET to and the current sensing resistor for maintianing the constant current and then back circuit Ground.
              You are getting 0 on the D- because of the open circuit.
              The 'S' is for Sensing, they are not used as you can see how the connection is made at the LED connector.
              The LED power supply output Voltage with load is printed on the chart on the board.
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              Last edited by budm; 09-14-2016, 09:42 AM.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • CapLeaker
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                • Dec 2014
                • 7986
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

                In easy words: You gotta tear into the panel and find the open circuit LED('s) and replace them.

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                • Captain Blu Ballz
                  Member
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 32
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

                  Thank You everybody for your quick response. I was hoping it would be something board related but kinda knew I would eventually have to tear into the panel. I hope I don't screw this bad boy up.

                  Quick question, I've read that when repairing the leds it's best to to replace them all at the same time. If that is the case I'm having a difficult time locating a place that stocks a kit that has all of then sold as a package. Besides jimmys, (out of stock) I can't find anybody else that sells them or has them in stock. Thanks again everybody for your input. I think I've found a new place to hang out. Gotta love fixing stuff except led panels and microwaves. Microwaves have always scared the #$&! Out of me and the Led panel I'm working on now, well, one wrong move and the thing is destroyed.

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                  • Captain Blu Ballz
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                    • Sep 2016
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                    #10
                    Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

                    Has photobucket always been riddled with ads? I find it almost impossible to view photos using photobucket.

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                    • Captain Blu Ballz
                      Member
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 32
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

                      Here are the pictures from the power supply board and the panel once removed. I found one open Led and several shorted Leds. The tv is only 3 years old, huh. The red are shorted and orange is open. Need to find new led strips, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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                      • flocko
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1121
                        • uk

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

                        I would say replace the top pair of LED strips,then cut the 11 good LEDs from these and use them to stack repair the defective LEDs on the other strips. when you have repaired the set turn the back lights down for a longer life

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

                          What is your LCD panel model number?
                          http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...UN60FH6003FXZA
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • Captain Blu Ballz
                            Member
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 32
                            • United States

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

                            Panel number
                            Shop jimmy is out of stock
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                            Last edited by Captain Blu Ballz; 09-15-2016, 11:15 AM.

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                            • Captain Blu Ballz
                              Member
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 32
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung UN60FH6003FXZA 410vdc going to LEDs

                              Update:
                              Found a full set of leds on ebay. They belonged to a different tv but had the same numbers on the leds themselves. Picture indicates this. I got them to light up no problem but upon reassembly of the tv I heard a slight "tick" and I knew exactly what it was. The screen cracked! ! It wasn't visible until I powered it up though. Lots of time and effort invested in this tv researching, trying to find parts and reading. Boy was I disappointed.


                              In the pictures below you'll find the numbers I was able to search for to find replacements. You'll notice that your search will come up with a few different tv model numbers but as long as these numbers are in the description you should be golden. Just be careful putting the thing back together. The screen is super thin and made of glass. It will flex to some degree but it is fragile.
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                              Last edited by Captain Blu Ballz; 10-11-2016, 04:07 PM.

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