Rocnation Audio Jack

[JJR]

Does any know the wiring for a Skullcandy Roc Nation Aviator headphone audio jack?

It's a TRRS 4 panel jack.

I don't know which colour to solder to which panel.

The colours I have are:
Red
Red/green
green
copper

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Dave

[stj]

Re: Rocnation Audio Jack

i suspect red and red/green is one side with red being the +
and the green and copper is the other side with green being the +

once you tin the ends, you can hold them on the new plug to test the theory.

btw, what the hell is a "TRRS 4 panel jack."

[JJR]

Re: Rocnation Audio Jack

The 3.5mm 1/8" audio jack/connector has 4 parts instead of 3.
T=tip
R=ring
R=ring (2)
S=sleeve

Normal TRS jacks have just 1 ring.

[stj]

Re: Rocnation Audio Jack

4pole jack - like on a cellfone?
what uses that?
or is that what your doing?

[budm]

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MAC uses them too of course.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/09/...ew_audio_jacks

[SteveNielsen]

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There are two standards in use for headsets with a mic used on mobile and game consoles.

OMTP: Used by old Nokia (and also Lumia starting from the 2nd gen[16]), old Samsung (2012 Chromebooks), old Sony Ericsson (2010 and 2011 Xperias), old Wiko (2012-), Sony (PlayStation Vita), OnePlus One
T = L
R = R
R = Mic
S = Common


CTIA: Used by Apple, HTC, latest Nokia, latest Samsung, latest Wiko (2013+), Jolla, Sony (Dualshock 4), Microsoft (including Surface, Lumia, and XboxOne controller with chat adapter) most Android phones
T = L
R = R
R = Common
S = Mic

Concerning your wire colors bare copper is common, red is probably right and you'll need to test out the others to determine which is left and and which is mic. A guess would be that green is left and red-green is mic.

[budm]

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It will be easy to tell which wires are for the speakers in the headphone left and right, the Ohm meter will show the resistnce of the speaker which can be from 8 ~32 Ohms, the MIC will be much higher resistance. You can also hear the pop on the speaker when you use beeper mode on the meter when you touch/un-touch the speaker wire with the meter.

[SteveNielsen]

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^Exactly.

[stj]

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didnt know it had a mic - poster never said that.

just looked them up, amazing what some people will pay for a pair of can's with the right label on them!!!

[JJR]

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Thanks Guys, I will give it a go when I get back to work on Monday

[JJR]

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WHAT A NIGHTMARE!!

Now, I can solder, I repair DC jacks etc, it's easy after the first time.

But these headphones are wrecking my head.

It should be really easy, I have tinned the new jack in all 4 places, no problem.
I've stripped the cable to expose all 4 wires.
I've cleaned the end of each wire.
I've fluxed the end of each wire.

But I cannot tin the wires and I cannot solder them to the jack.

It just does not take.

It's driving me mad, I've walked away twice to stop me throwing it through the window.

What on earth am I doing wrong?

[JJR]

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Sorry Guys, I don't expect an answer here, I'm just blowing off steam

[stj]

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lol

to tin enamel/plastic-coated wire:
twist them together, dont add flux.

put a big blob of solder on the tip of your iron - preferably lead-free at 300-320' temp setting.
hold the twisted wire end in the blob.
after a few seconds it will burn the coating off and take to the copper.

[JJR]

Re: Rocnation Audio Jack

Hi stj

No twisting 2 wires together, soldering straight to jack connections.

I used 2 methods to remove coating: 1st - hot solder as you suggest, 2nd - FIRE (lighter).

Tried tinning with & without flux.

[JJR]

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Cable getting shorter lol!

[stj]

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what iron have you got?
and what solder?

[JJR]

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Atten 8568
Multicore leaded 0.5mm Ersin 309
The above has never let me down.

BUT, we have lift off, the only thing I did differently was to use some cheapo lead-free that has been lurking in my toolbox for 5 years.

Me no understand

[stj]

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lead-free melts at a higher temperature, so the flux is also designed to work higher without just burning.

btw, the best solder i have found so-far in MANY years is Multicomp Kristall-505

Farnell sells it.
set your iron to 310'

[goontron]

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aspirin. no joke. put the wire and the tip of the iron to a tablet of aspirin. dont breath the smoke!

[stj]

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that can damage the coating on the iron tip.