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  • GR3Y5H3ART
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 146

    #1

    bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

    TV Model is Vizio GV42L and replaced the Power Board w/one working on eBay, VIZIO logo turns orange like before

    my Dad was in electronics for 30+ years and brought me 3 Multi Meters and i want to test the voltage regulators but searched extensively and still can't figure them out


    can someone please tell me how to use any one of these to measure this Main board
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  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

    I'd use the middle one...

    Keep probes like they are.
    Set meter to 20V DC (the symbol with one solid line, one dashed line.)

    Place the black probe on the TV chassis, this is your ground reference for now.
    Place the red probe on each pin going to the main board in succession. Note the readings (post them here) and compare to the label.
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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    • GR3Y5H3ART
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 146

      #3
      Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

      tried that and that was the one i was using...will try again today and thanks

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

        Please read this:
        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...999#post300999
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • Ltank
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jun 2013
          • 776
          • USA

          #5
          Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

          There are a bunch of videos on u tube

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          • GR3Y5H3ART
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 146

            #6
            Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

            Originally posted by Ltank
            There are a bunch of videos on u tube
            i looked at some of those w/one of the most helpful being NorCal but even then after searching about exactly how to use these multimeters, i did not find a video

            besides, the 4 22 Inch Samsung Monitors i had, i came on here back in 2011 and BadCaps was to say the least a god send


            a BadCaps Member from Europe was even kind enough to send me CCFLs Bulbs, for free...from Europe!


            thats why i wanted to wait w/these noob type questions but TVs are vastly different from Monitors yet similar in many ways that talking w/members is again, proving to be the best solution

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            • GR3Y5H3ART
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 146

              #7
              Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

              k got the numbers but the mutli meter was -0.04?

              1.
              pin 1 = 1.56
              pin 2 = 0.00
              pin 3 = 1.05

              2
              pin 1 = 1.25
              pin 2 = 0.00
              pin 3 = 1.38

              3
              pin 1 = 1.44
              pin 2 = 0.00
              pin 3 = 1.05

              4
              pin 1 = 1.45
              pin 2 = 0.00
              pin 3 = 1.04

              5
              pin 1 = 2.25
              pin 2 = 0.00
              pin 3 = 0.74

              6 question, this one has 3 pins but the middle one is not solder?

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              • GR3Y5H3ART
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 146

                #8
                Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                not 100% sure if i did the readings correct 1st time so put ground on chassis and measured:

                1.
                pin = 2.58
                pin = 0.98
                pin = 0.00

                2.
                pin = 2.58
                pin = 1.16
                pin = 0.00

                3.
                pin = 4.07
                pin = 2.58
                pin = 0.00

                4.
                pin = 4.08
                pin = 2.58
                pin = 1.58

                5.
                pin = 4.07
                pin = 1.77
                pin = 1.07

                6.
                pin = 0.00
                pin = 0.00
                pin = 0.00


                so 6 is blown for sure?
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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                  Please write down the P/N of each one of those regulators so we will know what they are, for example 1117-1.8, or 1117.
                  There also two SMD fuses on the board that you should check also, one is for 5V, another one is for the switched 12V.
                  Those 4.07/8 reading are not normal, I expect 5V reading. Is the meter good?
                  Last edited by budm; 09-12-2014, 09:24 AM.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • GR3Y5H3ART
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 146

                    #10
                    Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                    All 4 say:

                    AMC1117
                    F0719J

                    except 2:

                    K1117S15
                    726

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                    • anmol
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 73
                      • India

                      #11
                      Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                      This may help you?
                      VIZIO GV42L HDTV & L42HDTV10A LCD TV Service Manual
                      Regards,
                      Attached Files

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                        Originally posted by GR3Y5H3ART
                        All 4 say:

                        AMC1117
                        F0719J

                        except 2:

                        K1117S15
                        726
                        OK, the one with 1117s15 is the 1.5V fixed output voltage regulator, the other are Adjustable output regulators.
                        But which two are the 1117s15?
                        Last edited by budm; 09-13-2014, 10:05 AM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                          1.
                          pin = 2.58
                          pin = 0.98
                          pin = 0.00

                          2.
                          pin = 2.58
                          pin = 1.16
                          pin = 0.00

                          3.
                          pin = 4.07
                          pin = 2.58
                          pin = 0.00

                          4.
                          pin = 4.08
                          pin = 2.58
                          pin = 1.58

                          5.
                          pin = 4.07
                          pin = 1.77
                          pin = 1.07

                          6.
                          pin = 0.00
                          pin = 0.00
                          pin = 0.00

                          So which two are 1117s15.
                          Originally posted by budm
                          Please write down the P/N of each one of those regulators so we will know what they are, for example 1117-1.8, or 1117.
                          There also two SMD fuses on the board that you should check also, one is for 5V, another one is for the switched 12V.
                          Those 4.07/8 reading are not normal, I expect 5V reading. Is the meter good?
                          Did you do as I requested on checking the voltages on the fuses?
                          The 4V input voltage is not right, it is too low.
                          Check the voltage of the both SMD fuses at both ends against the chassis ground, if one of them shows 4V then you will have to fix the 5VSTBY power supply first.
                          Last edited by budm; 09-13-2014, 10:07 AM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • GR3Y5H3ART
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 146

                            #14
                            Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                            i meant #2...1,3,4,5 all AMC

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                            • GR3Y5H3ART
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 146

                              #15
                              Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                              Originally posted by budm
                              1.
                              pin = 2.58
                              pin = 0.98
                              pin = 0.00

                              2.
                              pin = 2.58
                              pin = 1.16
                              pin = 0.00

                              3.
                              pin = 4.07
                              pin = 2.58
                              pin = 0.00

                              4.
                              pin = 4.08
                              pin = 2.58
                              pin = 1.58

                              5.
                              pin = 4.07
                              pin = 1.77
                              pin = 1.07

                              6.
                              pin = 0.00
                              pin = 0.00
                              pin = 0.00

                              So which two are 1117s15.

                              Did you do as I requested on checking the voltages on the fuses?
                              The 4V input voltage is not right, it is too low.
                              Check the voltage of the both SMD fuses at both ends against the chassis ground, if one of them shows 4V then you will have to fix the 5VSTBY power supply first.
                              sry for being a noob but can you point out in the pic where the fuses are? i've seen norcals vid a number of times but wanna make sure n thanks for being so helpful

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                              • retiredcaps
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 9271

                                #16
                                Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                Originally posted by GR3Y5H3ART
                                sry for being a noob but can you point out in the pic where the fuses are?
                                They are just below the connector circled in red. They are labelled F1, F2, etc. I can only see 2, but the flash on the camera might be obscuring another one? A good fuse should measure less than 1.0 ohms.
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                                • GR3Y5H3ART
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jan 2011
                                  • 146

                                  #17
                                  Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                  whats the part number for the 1117s? should i just replace them all or just the ones w/lower readings?

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                                  • budm
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2010
                                    • 40746
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                    Well, did you check the voltages at the fuses? the reading of 4V feeding voltage to the regulator is too low for the 5V Standby Voltage.
                                    Never stop learning
                                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                    • GR3Y5H3ART
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jan 2011
                                      • 146

                                      #19
                                      Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                      not yet, i'd rather just buy all the parts and have them in hand just in case

                                      can someone please help me w/correct part numbers from digikey

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: bought new Power Board, can't test Main Board - need help using MultiMeters

                                        These are what I stock for repair:
                                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...91&postcount=7
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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