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  • toastygoodness
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jul 2005
    • 813
    • United States

    #1

    lappys and firewire

    is it just me or is it impossible to find a $1000-or-less lappy with firewire?

    the reason i need firewire is for audio recording to connect to my echo audiofire2.

    you guys know of any lappys that have firewire?

    thanks a bunch!
  • pentium
    Badcaps Legend
    • Mar 2006
    • 2778
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: lappys and firewire

    What's wrong with buying a PCMCIA firewire card?
    Find Nedry!


    Check the Vending machines!!

    <----Computer says I need more beer.

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    • ratdude747
      Black Sheep
      • Nov 2008
      • 17136
      • USA

      #3
      Re: lappys and firewire

      dont a bunch have 1394 4pin built in? i see it on laptops all the time... or do you need 6 pin?

      otherwise, get a pc card or the like for it.
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      • Scenic
        o.O
        • Sep 2007
        • 2640
        • Germany

        #4
        Re: lappys and firewire

        yeah.. PC Card would be the cheapest option.

        otherwise.. i remember that a lot of Sony Laptops had Firewire built in. however.. a lot of the still-useful ones (Pentium M and above) have problems with dead mainboards..

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        • stj
          Great Sage 齊天大聖
          • Dec 2009
          • 30911
          • Albion

          #5
          Re: lappys and firewire

          firewire400, or firewire800 ?

          if it's full-rate then i suspect only apple will make them - if at all.

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          • toastygoodness
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jul 2005
            • 813
            • United States

            #6
            Re: lappys and firewire

            lol most lappys don't have card slots anymore either :-(

            just fw400. expresscard was pretty popular like last year but now i can't find them either.... so weird....

            six or four-pin don't matter, the interface has its own p/s.

            here it is: http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/Fi...ire4/index.php

            btw, thanks for all the help guys, you guys are amazing

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            • bgavin
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2007
              • 1355

              #7
              Re: lappys and firewire

              If your interest is sound cards, etc, make SURE to get the Texas Instrument chipset as your FW foundation. My research showed significant latency and other big problems with non TI chipsets.

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              • toastygoodness
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jul 2005
                • 813
                • United States

                #8
                Re: lappys and firewire

                yeah thanks for the fast reply.

                i know which expresscard i'm getting if i can find a lappy with EC. most lappys should have TI chips, since via pulled out a while ago. i currently have a gigabyte ga-ma770-ds3 so i've got a nice tsb fw chip in here. at least an old acer my buddy has (1.5 years old) has a ti chip in there.

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                • stevo1210
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 4156
                  • Australia

                  #9
                  Re: lappys and firewire

                  I thought firewire was standard on all laptops these days? (except netbooks).

                  Because even my 5 year old Dell Inspiron E1505 and even older 7 year old Toshiba Satellite P25 has firewire...
                  Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous

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                  • mockingbird
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5484

                    #10
                    Re: lappys and firewire

                    What!? All the lower end laptops have firewire, or at least they did...

                    If your interest is sound cards, etc, make SURE to get the Texas Instrument chipset as your FW foundation. My research showed significant latency and other big problems with non TI chipsets.
                    Laptops only use TI chips... Or at least I've never seen one with a VIA.
                    "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                    -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                    • toastygoodness
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 813
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: lappys and firewire

                      Originally posted by stevo1210
                      I thought firewire was standard on all laptops these days? (except netbooks).

                      Because even my 5 year old Dell Inspiron E1505 and even older 7 year old Toshiba Satellite P25 has firewire...
                      yeah, they used to........... now i can't find one :-(

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                      • ratdude747
                        Black Sheep
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 17136
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: lappys and firewire

                        usb sound?

                        that might be a better alternative...

                        firewire seems to be a dying interface. usb seems to have taken over almost every port...
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                        • toastygoodness
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 813
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: lappys and firewire

                          can't. the only usb audio interface i know of is either e-mu 0404 or tascam ul144mk2. both cut out at random intervals (not predictable at all) and only reset when the asio driver's reset. usb sucks for audio, no matter what. even usb3 isn't supposed to have the right specs. plus i'm not gonna go out and spend another $260 that i've already spent.

                          not only firewire is dying; seems like pcmcia/expresscard too.

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                          • mockingbird
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 5484

                            #14
                            Re: lappys and firewire

                            Originally posted by toastygoodness
                            not only firewire is dying; seems like pcmcia/expresscard too.
                            Expresscard certainly is not dying. These days you can even get Phillips-based SAA713x based tuners. And they really pass through the PCIe unlike the fake expresscard tuners which simply route everything through USB.
                            "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                            -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                            • mockingbird
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 5484

                              #15
                              Re: lappys and firewire

                              Also, Newegg has a large selection of PCMCIA/Expresscard firewire cards:

                              Newegg PCMCIA Firewire
                              Newegg Expresscard Firewire

                              Good luck.
                              "We have offered them (the Arabs) a sensible way for so many years. But no, they wanted to fight. Fine! We gave them technology, the latest, the kind even Vietnam didn't have. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple in artillery, and in air defense and anti-tank weapons they had absolute supremacy. And what? Once again they were beaten. Once again they scrammed [sic]. Once again they screamed for us to come save them. Sadat woke me up in the middle of the night twice over the phone, 'Save me!' He demanded to send Soviet troops, and immediately! No! We are not going to fight for them."

                              -Leonid Brezhnev (On the Yom Kippur War)

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                              • washu
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 310

                                #16
                                Re: lappys and firewire

                                Dell Studio 15 and Latitude E5400 both have firewire and are well under $1K. Don't know what chipset, but I assume TI.

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                                • toastygoodness
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Jul 2005
                                  • 813
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: lappys and firewire

                                  Originally posted by mockingbird
                                  Expresscard certainly is not dying. These days you can even get Phillips-based SAA713x based tuners. And they really pass through the PCIe unlike the fake expresscard tuners which simply route everything through USB.
                                  no no no no, you misinterpret. i've already found the cards themselves. lemme rephrase it: the SLOTS are dying. they are nowhere to be seen.

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                                  • toastygoodness
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Jul 2005
                                    • 813
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: lappys and firewire

                                    Originally posted by washu
                                    Dell Studio 15 and Latitude E5400 both have firewire and are well under $1K. Don't know what chipset, but I assume TI.
                                    Hmmm sounds interesting. Thanks for the find!

                                    I only wish it weren't Dell but at least its a Latitude.

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                                    • stj
                                      Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                      • Dec 2009
                                      • 30911
                                      • Albion

                                      #19
                                      Re: lappys and firewire

                                      they are probably not fitting the slots because of the stupid obsession with trying to make laptops thinner (and easier to break).

                                      give me a nice chunky thinkpad or satellite-pro type machine anyday.
                                      who wants a laptop that looks like a sheet of thick cardboard!!!!

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                                      • toastygoodness
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Jul 2005
                                        • 813
                                        • United States

                                        #20
                                        Re: lappys and firewire

                                        well, found out it can't be a dell.... ironically from an amazon review, the guy was complaining about the audiofire not working until he noticed that dell used via...

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