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  • PCBONEZ
    Grumpy Old Fart
    • Aug 2005
    • 10661
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    #21
    Re: a new dell to play with

    I dunno as you haven't said what caps you are replacing with them.
    - You are shooting all over the place...
    FC is probably [almost for sure] not good enough.
    Poly is probably a bit of over-kill.
    - The target is somewhere in between.
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    • kc8adu
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 8832
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      #22
      Re: a new dell to play with

      if you want to get the caps from dk use fm.
      from tc use the fujitsu re 820 uf 2.5v.
      the leads are easier to form than the ncc.8mm in place of 10mm.
      and yes i replace all the vrm out caps(2200@6.3) with the polys.
      did a 260 a while back as well as 3 240's.proven mod.or use mbz 2200@6.3 from tc.

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      • PCBONEZ
        Grumpy Old Fart
        • Aug 2005
        • 10661
        • USA

        #23
        Re: a new dell to play with

        I'm not saying polys wouldn't be good.
        I'm saying they are a waste when you are using FC on the rest of the board.
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        • shadow
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Feb 2007
          • 732
          • Australia

          #24
          Re: a new dell to play with

          Only crap thing when the hard drives are taken. They usually do not bother removing the propriety hard drive rails from the hard drives that many of these small PC's have and use (I don't blame them thou). This becomes a pain in the ass when you can't just screw in a hard drive.

          I have had this problem with an IBL Netvista Desktop style PC. I ended up making my own timber rails and ensured that the hard drive chassis is grounded to the chassis of the case when I made the rails.

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          • ratdude747
            Black Sheep
            • Nov 2008
            • 17136
            • USA

            #25
            Re: a new dell to play with

            they are all exact matches in dia, uf, and voltage. the poly replaces an identical poly that was knocked off.

            i thogt fc was just below fm. fm was out of stock.

            i will check again...

            as for the hard drive, yes, a set was missing but they had some more that were case- only that i could steal from. ill go today if im lucky.

            edit- if fc won't work, then tell me what is out of theis list:

            http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...206.3v&stock=1

            thats what they have in stock.
            Last edited by ratdude747; 11-25-2009, 09:04 AM.
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            • ratdude747
              Black Sheep
              • Nov 2008
              • 17136
              • USA

              #26
              Re: a new dell to play with

              ok, what if i poly mod the vcore and fm the rest. what values should i use on the poly caps? but the 16v 1800uf is only in fc unless i backorder.
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              • kc8adu
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 8832
                • U.S.A!

                #27
                Re: a new dell to play with

                https://www.badcaps.net/store/produc...products_id=76
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                • ratdude747
                  Black Sheep
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17136
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: a new dell to play with

                  ok, srew the 240, i got somthing better

                  went to get brackets, walked out with a gx260. 10 bux, no hdd, ram, or cpu (had heatsink with nice bracket). no visible bad caps.

                  hmm... it spins fans with error light c yellow, the rest is green... not in dell's list.

                  tried 3 psus, turns out the one from the 240 has a bad fan.

                  maybe the 260 HAS bad caps... i put in 2 400mhz 1gb apida ram sticks... maybe not happy with the ram?

                  edit- it spun fans as soon as i plugged in the power cord.
                  Last edited by ratdude747; 11-25-2009, 04:43 PM.
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                  • mockingbird
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Dec 2008
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                    #29
                    Re: a new dell to play with

                    Originally posted by ratdude747
                    ok, srew the 240, i got somthing better

                    went to get brackets, walked out with a gx260. 10 bux, no hdd, ram, or cpu (had heatsink with nice bracket). no visible bad caps.

                    hmm... it spins fans with error light c yellow, the rest is green... not in dell's list.

                    tried 3 psus, turns out the one from the 240 has a bad fan.

                    maybe the 260 HAS bad caps... i put in 2 400mhz 1gb apida ram sticks... maybe not happy with the ram?

                    edit- it spun fans as soon as i plugged in the power cord.
                    Meh, all you gained was a new southbridge with USB2.0 and AGP8X, DDR memory, and support for 533mhz CPUs and possibly 800mhz CPUs.

                    It's a bit of a bummer, because now you have to get some DDR memory. DDR memory aint cheap, SDRAM is abundant. I've got loads of the stuff.

                    When i cannibalize computers off the street, if they're older BX or i810/i815 or early P4 comps I usually take out the RAM, CPU, and other interesting components. Like last time I found an old LX chipset computer but it had a D-Link DWL-G510 (Atheros G).

                    I also found a huge ATX tower. It was something pretty cool I would have liked to have. A shame that the side panel was not there otherwise I would have taken the whole case.

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                    • ratdude747
                      Black Sheep
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 17136
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: a new dell to play with

                      i also had ddr, btw. hmm... ill try 2 sticks corsair value select and see what that does.

                      edit- tried the sticks, that changed it. now it does AC, then AB, then sops on BC.

                      that means it doesnt like the vid card or the ram. odd. ill try more combos.
                      Last edited by ratdude747; 11-25-2009, 08:33 PM.
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                      • ratdude747
                        Black Sheep
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 17136
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: a new dell to play with

                        my ram must be too fast- it will only do 2100 it says. crap, i may not have any...
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                        • ratdude747
                          Black Sheep
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 17136
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                          #32
                          Re: a new dell to play with

                          screw al my babble, it works after all... 400mhz value select works but the speed is limited.

                          error lights aside, once it runs a few seconds, it goes to all green, good. on the original psu too.

                          the other psu form the 240 needs the fan looked at (sounds like a wire is stuck in it based on the smacking sound)

                          it needs ubuntu re-installed but runs fine otherwise.

                          the apida sticks must be not dell approved, but hey, my emachine t5026 is cool with 4 of them.

                          btw, the place had a nice server rack for sale... too bad i have nothing that is rackmount.
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                          • torin3
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 178

                            #33
                            Re: a new dell to play with

                            Originally posted by ratdude747
                            screw al my babble, it works after all... 400mhz value select works but the speed is limited.
                            My experience has always been (since SDRAM days {PC-100/PC-133}) that you can run faster memory in slower systems, and it automatically downclocks. You can usually run mixed speed memory, and run it all at the lower speed.

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                            • ratdude747
                              Black Sheep
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 17136
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: a new dell to play with

                              i know, but some laptops are picky, such as my dad's ibm t22. it wont boot pc133, pc100 only.

                              also, anything that was made before the ram speed existed will usually give an error thinking the chips are bad, unless you update the bios.

                              ok the thing DOES work, as i am posting from it using a live cd. it will be a ubuntu/xp dual boot fileserver. right now i am partitioning it off, will install xp using COA, then install ubuntu. it will be nice.
                              Last edited by ratdude747; 11-25-2009, 10:50 PM.
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                              • PCBONEZ
                                Grumpy Old Fart
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 10661
                                • USA

                                #35
                                Re: a new dell to play with

                                Originally posted by ratdude747
                                walked out with a gx260. 10 bux, no hdd, ram, or cpu (had heatsink with nice bracket). no visible bad caps.
                                Check for KZG, HM, HN.
                                Check PSU too.
                                Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                -
                                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                - Dr Seuss
                                -
                                You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                -

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                                • ratdude747
                                  Black Sheep
                                  • Nov 2008
                                  • 17136
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: a new dell to play with

                                  it runs fine, had some hm nichicons, but not failed. it runs fine.

                                  iirc hm/hn doesn't usually fail silently. usually they bulge/leak. or thats what i was told on the forum some time ago.
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                                  • PCBONEZ
                                    Grumpy Old Fart
                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 10661
                                    • USA

                                    #37
                                    Re: a new dell to play with

                                    Yes but there is this place between working and bloated called marginal.
                                    If date codes are bad, preemptive replacement is a good idea.
                                    Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                    - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                    -
                                    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                    - Dr Seuss
                                    -
                                    You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                    -

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                                    • ratdude747
                                      Black Sheep
                                      • Nov 2008
                                      • 17136
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: a new dell to play with

                                      ok... what is and isn't a good datecode?
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                                      • PCBONEZ
                                        Grumpy Old Fart
                                        • Aug 2005
                                        • 10661
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: a new dell to play with

                                        Date codes are like A0311
                                        The 03 is the year
                                        the 11 is the week
                                        You don't want date codes with the year: 01, 02, 03, 04.
                                        Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                        - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                        -
                                        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                        - Dr Seuss
                                        -
                                        You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                        -

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                                        • PCBONEZ
                                          Grumpy Old Fart
                                          • Aug 2005
                                          • 10661
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: a new dell to play with

                                          I dunno what the letter is but I usually see an A or an H.
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                                          Mann-Made Global Warming.
                                          - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                                          -
                                          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                                          - Dr Seuss
                                          -
                                          You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                                          -

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