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  • ratdude747
    Black Sheep
    • Nov 2008
    • 17136
    • USA

    #21
    Re: slot A

    Originally posted by loudnproud59
    Hey ratdude747 that adapter you were talking about is it for socket 370 if so i have one here in front of me if you want it it is yours and it will cost you nothing it has a celeron sl5vr in it i got this years ago for some work i had done for someone,just pm me with your address and i will send it to you,it is of no use to me and if you can use it great.
    you mean a lin-lin coppermine to tulatin adapter? ill see...
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    • ratdude747
      Black Sheep
      • Nov 2008
      • 17136
      • USA

      #22
      Re: slot A

      UPDATES!

      for the slot-a board:

      turns out that a PII cooler= a slot-a cooler. i happened to have a PII cooler with a bad fan, replaced the fan, fits fine.

      meanwhile, the lin-lin was a bust. none of my mobo's accepted it. so my compaq was sitting as a parts mine. but, my friend gave me a dead dell dimension 4100, which had a pIII 1ghz in it, which made the compaq usable. but then i looiked up the dell's case pinouts, and what do you know, they are EXACTLY the same as the slot-A board. makes sense, jabil uses the same pinouts as intel who made boards for dell... in addition, the board fits perfectly in the case (i had to run it w/o an IO shield). all i had to do was put in the new board and swap for a standard atx psu.

      so now, here are the new specs:

      AMD athlon classic 700mhz
      jabil kadoka r4 mobo
      512mb sdram (may add a 3rd stick)
      ati rage pro 128 agp card
      ess alegro 4.1 channel sound
      10/100 lan
      40gb wd hd
      8x cd-rw (LOL- but the flip door on it was too cool to pass up)
      bad floppy drive (will replace)
      compaq (delta) 300w psu
      dell dimension 4100 case w/ 92mm antec fan
      ubuntu 10.04

      LOL- a gateway board in a dell case with a compaq power supply... this seems so wrong yet so right...

      ps- i posted this from it...
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      • Junk Parts
        Court Jester
        • Jun 2006
        • 8953
        • USA

        #23
        Re: slot A

        As for the Dells I think Foxconn made a great deal of the boards for them. My 4550 Dimension and my GX150 both have Foxconn boards. These board look like intel but are Foxconn's and may be made in china???
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        • ratdude747
          Black Sheep
          • Nov 2008
          • 17136
          • USA

          #24
          Re: slot A

          nope, intel. hence why they never used amd for a LONG time.i know foxconn made parts for compaq, they made my compaq's case (presario 7000). and the original cooler, possibly the mobo. they also made my gaming rig's case (unknown model).
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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 30985
            • Albion

            #25
            Re: slot A

            you could put a BIG hd on that.

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            • PCBONEZ
              Grumpy Old Fart
              • Aug 2005
              • 10661
              • USA

              #26
              Re: slot A

              Yes, Foxconn does build Intel boards and not just for Dell.
              Except for full blown server boards Foxconn has been the actual builder for Intel OEM and Retail boards for 8-10 years now.
              Even if it says Intel on it, Foxconn probably built it.
              .
              Foxconn also does their own boards.
              If you look you will find a few [both Retail and OEM] Foxconn boards that are built on the exact same PCB as some model they build for [and mark as] Intel.
              - The Foxconn version will usually have a different [but compatible to Intel's version] LAN chip, different plastic colors on the slots, and cheaper caps but that's about it for any difference.

              Dell/Intel/Foxconn boards were usually marked 'Intel' up until the HN/HM fiasco. After that Intel didn't want to be associated with the problem so they 'let' Foxconn put their name on the Dell boards.

              Foxconn is a HUGE international electronics company. Manufacturing motherboards is only a small fraction of their business interests.

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              • ratdude747
                Black Sheep
                • Nov 2008
                • 17136
                • USA

                #27
                Re: slot A

                no, i don't ned to put a larger hd in there. i do have an 80gb but it is samsung with a bad sector or 2. the hd cooling is not the greatest so thats why i put my 40 in it.

                idk that foxconn made intel boards... my bad jabil made them before that (i had a gateway pII board like that)
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                • PCBONEZ
                  Grumpy Old Fart
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10661
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: slot A

                  Jabil made boards for Gateway, HP, and others. They did 100% OEM [no retail boards at all] and they never put their own name on anything I've seen.
                  Not 100% sure but I don't think Jabil built for Intel. The engineering on their boards just isn't the same. [Especially in the VRM areas.] Pretty sure Intel was building all their own boards until [before] P3. If Jabil did build for Intel it wasn't for very long.
                  -
                  I haven't seen a Jabil made mother board since P3 which is kind of a shame because their P3 boards were usually pretty solid builds. [Apart from crap caps now and then.]
                  -
                  I know they are still around and making PCBs for various things, just not 'PC' mobos. If you have a GM, your car'puter is probably Jabil built. I know they build for HP but I'm not sure is that includes motherboards.
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                  Mann-Made Global Warming.
                  - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.

                  -
                  Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

                  - Dr Seuss
                  -
                  You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
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                  • stj
                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 30985
                    • Albion

                    #29
                    Re: slot A

                    i mean real big - 500gig for example.

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                    • ratdude747
                      Black Sheep
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 17136
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: slot A

                      umm... i do not have a 500gb... and i do not intend to get one. i do not need more than 40gb for it, my 250gb SATA and my 320gb PATA drives are the biggest i own and need the 320 will be a matching 160 in my yet to be finished file server. the 250 is in my gaming p4 64 box only 'cause it's sata (it only has one ide channel). for a living room web browser... a 40 is fine.

                      so... why do YOU need something that big? to say you have one (the old-fashion "mine's bigger!" argument)?
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                      • Wizard
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 2296

                        #31
                        Re: slot A

                        I thought this ancient slot A is intended for data storage only not web.

                        Cheers, Wizard

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                        • weirdlookinguy
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1638

                          #32
                          Re: slot A

                          Originally posted by ratdude747
                          so... why do YOU need something that big? to say you have one (the old-fashion "mine's bigger!" argument)?
                          Games, DVR duties, and large music collections are just a few examples of why one might need a huge hard drive.

                          Having a TV tuner in your computer will fill your drives like no other, especially if you're recording in HD. Last night's recording of The Office is taking 2.8GB on my HDD, and that's only half an hour's worth of TV. Now most of the crap I record I delete after a month or two when I'm done with it. But some of it I keep.

                          So before you dismiss large HDD's because YOU have no need for a large drive, think about the fact that there are MANY reasons why someone might need a large drive besides bragging rights.

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                          • kaniki
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 514

                            #33
                            Re: slot A

                            that one show may take 2.8 gig, but that also depends on the quality that you save it at. I have a DVD burner that i can record over 3 hours on one 4.7 gig disk and the quality is not half bad. to just watch a show, almost 6 gigs for 1 hour of TV is kinda high and not really needed unless you plan of saving it and burning it to a DVD.

                            as for the music, i agree there. I have over 60 gigs of music on my PC. and that is just music. factoring in other things like videos, files, backed up programs, etc.. I could see how you could use a 500 gig drive.

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                            • weirdlookinguy
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1638

                              #34
                              Re: slot A

                              The recording was taken off of a 16:9, 720p OTA stream. I'm not sure what Windows 7's MCE recording defaults are, but the recording seems to be full HD rez and it looks indistinguishable from watching it live to my eyes.

                              In addition to stuff I've recorded OTA with my HD Tuner I also have a pretty decent amount of DivX DVD rips, 14 gigs worth of music (not too much but it's growing) and probably a good 11 season's worth of TV shows. Currently I only have one 640GB SATA drive. I have two partitions, here's the usage as of today:


                              As you can see things are getting a bit tight, especially on my system partition. It might be time to order up another Caviar Black, maybe a 1TB this time.

                              Sorry to get this thread off topic but ratdude just because YOU have no use for big drives doesn't mean they're worthless.
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                              • stj
                                Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 30985
                                • Albion

                                #35
                                Re: slot A

                                Originally posted by ratdude747
                                umm... i do not have a 500gb... and i do not intend to get one. i do not need more than 40gb for it, my 250gb SATA and my 320gb PATA drives are the biggest i own and need the 320 will be a matching 160 in my yet to be finished file server. the 250 is in my gaming p4 64 box only 'cause it's sata (it only has one ide channel). for a living room web browser... a 40 is fine.

                                so... why do YOU need something that big? to say you have one (the old-fashion "mine's bigger!" argument)?
                                i need a huge one to backup all my other machines via RSYNC including all my romz for mame.
                                and my xbox games - because xboxes are good at cooking & killing drives.

                                add up all your drives - that + maybe 30% is how big you'd need for a backup system.

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                                • dood
                                  Deputy dood
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 2462
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: slot A

                                  My 750gb at work is full... my 750 here at home has around 100gb free. I'm trying to convince myself I really need to break the 1tb barrier. At this point, backup has to be a copy of the data to another drive of a different manufacturer batch. There's no way I'm burning it all, even to DL DVDs. At work, I back it up to tape, which isn't so bad.
                                  Ludicrous gibs!

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                                  • stj
                                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                    • Dec 2009
                                    • 30985
                                    • Albion

                                    #37
                                    Re: slot A

                                    i wont go over 500gb till i'v seen the tb drives around atleast 5 years so i know they are stable & reliable.
                                    i remember the first seagate ones!!!!

                                    my next backup-server will use 500gig drives in pairs as mirrored raid.

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                                    • ratdude747
                                      Black Sheep
                                      • Nov 2008
                                      • 17136
                                      • USA

                                      #38
                                      Re: slot A

                                      posting from it right now, one thing i want to be heard:

                                      THIS IS NOT FOR DATA BACKUP!!!

                                      it is intenedes for the following functions:

                                      1. web surfing
                                      2. open office
                                      3. audio playback (internet radio?)
                                      4. simple games (minesweeper, solitare, etc)
                                      5. folding (perhaps... )
                                      6. CD burning (if it is all that is working)

                                      anyway... i do have a tv tuner in my gaming rig, however, i never figured out how exactly one must set up myth tv so i only use it for tv viewing via TvTime.

                                      for backup, most machines of mine share the same data so really, maybe 160-320 is about right for me. no big music collection (at 99 cents a song, it adds up, internet radio does not sound so bad) either.
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                                      • weirdlookinguy
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Sep 2007
                                        • 1638

                                        #39
                                        Re: slot A

                                        We're not telling you you need a bigger hard drive; we were just explaining that big hard drives are very necessary things and not just something "to show off about" as you were claiming.

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                                        • stj
                                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                          • Dec 2009
                                          • 30985
                                          • Albion

                                          #40
                                          Re: slot A

                                          exactly,
                                          and add frozen-bubble to your games list.

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