Does this exist?

[stevo1210]

I bought a 2nd hand Intel DP965LTCK mothewrbaord today and found out that there is only 1 IDE port for the optical drive and that the rest of the board depends on SATA. I have an IDE hard drive and I do not want to buy a new IDE hard drive. Is there some invention that allows me to convert my IDE hard drive to SATA or something like that or am I screwed?

Thanks.

[Wizard]

Re: Does this exist?

inveritable. Eventually PATA is going away. Notice number of SATA drives of any kind stuff are vastly outnumbering the PATA drives.

Get on with it onto SATA. I waited for that to mature and thus did.

Cheers, Wizard

[kc8adu]

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i have a sata to pata adaptor here somewhere.
check newegg.
or just get a sata drive and put the pata in a usb box.

[stevo1210]

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I dunno if this could work.... but I have a SATA DVD drive in the computer in my sig, is it possible to use a SATA DVD drive with a hard drive in the PATA port?.
If I am not mistaken, the PATA port has a native Intel IDE controller and not some Jmicron thing like in my P5K-E WIFI.

Thanks.

[Scenic]

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http://search.ebay.com.au/search/sea...p=1%26fsoo%3D1

i'm using 2 of those converters in my Core 2 Duo.

the board only has 1 IDE port but 8 (!) SATA ports.
i'm using those converters for my 2x 250GB IDE HDDs (IDE HDD -> Converter -> SATA Port on Mainboard)

works fine

[370forlife]

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You can use sata and pata at the same time. I have a pata hd and a pata cd drive, and a sata hd in my computer. So you can have your pata hard drive running next to your sata hard drive.

Why don't you just run your pata cd drive as master, and your pata hd as slave on the one channel?

[stevo1210]

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You can use sata and pata at the same time. I have a pata hd and a pata cd drive, and a sata hd in my computer. So you can have your pata hard drive running next to your sata hard drive.

I don't have a SATA hard drive for this system. That's also why I started this thread....

Why don't you just run your pata cd drive as master, and your pata hd as slave on the one channel?

I simply can't do that. I would love to do something like that but I can't because the cable isn't long enough to reach a dvd drive in the top and hdd at the bottom of the case.

Anyway, I found a solution around it today. I decided to take the SATA DVD drive from the PC is my sig and put it into the PC with the Intel DP965LT motherboard and the 40GB IDE hard drive on the IDE channel of the board. I felt happy today so I bought an Abit X600XT graphics card to go with the system as well.... the graphics are now very fast compared to my X300SE.
So far everything is working out well... in fact I am using the PC right now.

Thanks.

[Newbie2]

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So what processor do you have in that computer?

[stevo1210]

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I have an Intel Pentium 4 530J 3.0GHz processor in that PC. Bit old, but works well and was very expensive when I first bought it.

Thanks.

[Wizard]

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And not to mention, hot. Over 100W on that bugger. Plus prescott core wasn't giving the potiential performance I was looking for so I didn't go for it and very expensive. (I was on Athlon 3000+ barton core and only consumed 65W.

Cheers, Wizard

[Krankshaft]

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I have a SATA hard drive and a PATA DVD Burner. I know I was shocked when I bought the board and saw only 1 PATA port and 4 SATA ports.

But I eventually joined the SATA bandwagon when I bought my first 500 Gb WD SATA drive from Newegg two years ago.

I have seen SATA to PATA converters on Newegg while browsing but I have never personally used one. They are a little PCB that plugs directly into the PATA port and accepts a SATA connector on the other side.

You can also use an IDE controller card. Which would be much better IMO.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815124001

12 bucks dirt cheap and gets the job done.

Man IDE controller card that brings me back to those 80808 computers I used to have tons of now I only have one but its still in working condition.

The hdd interface card is so long that it needs support from the case to prevent flexing .

Ahhh how far we've come.

Speaking of going away I fear that PCI is next to be replaced by PCI-E 1x slots .

[Krankshaft]

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Oh sorry got lost on memory lane for a bit.

Oh I got it the 80808s used MFM see useless information is still in this melon somewhere.

Anyhow my editing time expired here is the PATA to SATA converter I spoke of.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812206002

As you can see though it needs to be powered by a 3 1/2 floppy connector hopefully you still don't have one of those . If you do though just get a splitter.

Ahh floppy disks does anyone still remember 5 1/4 disks I remember when I purchased double density disks for my single density drive.

[zandrax]

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Yeah Krank, I remember old MFM or RLL controller, those Winchester drives and 5" 1/4 floppies: I still own them
[OT]
I'm looking instead for an IDE (not RLL or MFM) controller on an ISA 8 bit card: my old Winchester in my Olivetti M240 is dying (rubber seals are corrupted, so air and dust enter into the drive) and the smallest drive I own is a WD Caviar 240 MB, IDE interface. Unfortunately most ide controllers are 16 bit ISA which don't work into the 8 bit slots my old M240 has.
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Zandrax

[Scenic]

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zandrax: i think i've got a 8bit ISA IDE Controller somewhere...
i'll search for it an PM you if i found it

and if i can't find it: i still have 2 MFM HDDs here. 20MB WD and 40MB NEC.
both working fine.. if you want one let me know

i wanted to use them in my Amstrad PC1640SD (8086 8MHz, 640KB RAM) but its controller doesnt work in a 486 mainboard (to install dos and maybe Windows 3.0 or 3.1.)
and the original floppy drive in this thing only supports single sided 5,25" floppys... and i dont wanna play DJ with 50 floppys just to install dos + windows + other software -.-

[Krankshaft]

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If I'm not mistaken those beasts used a stepper motor for the read head.

A stepper motor wouldn't have the responsiveness or accuracy for modern drives.

To believe that at one time it was cutting edge technology.

Now that's a HDD drop it on your foot and you get broken toes .

[linuxguru]

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8-bit PC/XT MFM controllers are rare, but they exist. Most are IBM original, and may not support drive geometries other those officially supplied by IBM (mostly 5 and 10 MB units from Shugart, Miniscribe and Micropolis). However, there is a Western Digital 8-bit board that will support the ST-225, 238 and a few larger drives up to 40 MB or so.

[zandrax]

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zandrax: i think i've got a 8bit ISA IDE Controller somewhere...
i'll search for it an PM you if i found it

Thanks Scenic.

and if i can't find it: i still have 2 MFM HDDs here. 20MB WD and 40MB NEC.
both working fine.. if you want one let me know

I should open the Olivetti and check the controller: it's funny but I don't remember which chip employs.

i wanted to use them in my Amstrad PC1640SD (8086 8MHz, 640KB RAM) but its controller doesnt work in a 486 mainboard (to install dos and maybe Windows 3.0 or 3.1.)
and the original floppy drive in this thing only supports single sided 5,25" floppys... and i dont wanna play DJ with 50 floppys just to install dos + windows + other software -.-

I can suggest two things:
- look for a 3.5" 720k floppy driver: it should be recognized by most XT compatibles like your Armstrad and my Olivetti while modern 1.44 drives aren't. I won't suggest sticking with 5" 1/4 floppies because they're rare, SD (360 kB) and HD (1.2 MB) recordings are only partly compatible (HD drives can write and read both, but HD heads record smaller tracks than SD ones: any SD floppy written with an HD drive can't be read by SD units) and, worst of all, most XT clones can't recognize the High density drives; 720kB units are quite rare too, but at least 3.5" floppies are still available and you can format them with little hassle (just cover the HD/SD hole with not transparent tape and format as 720K);
- Windows 3.1 doesn't run anymore in Real mode (the mode 8086 and 8088 cpus run) so it needs at least a 286 processor; Windows 3.0 runs in real mode but it requires some Extended memory (a 256 KB card), 640 KB aren't really enough: I tried to install it on my Olivetti with no luck. According to a MS support page, Windows 1.0 and 2.x should run without the need of such rare and, at the time, expensive expansion.

Zandrax