Difference between socket 1156 vs 2011.

[Spork Schivago]

So what exactly are the differences between the socket 1156 and the socket 2011? Originally, I thought it was the 1156 still used a FSB where as the 2011 didn't, but after doing some research, I now believe this is a false assumption. From what I can tell, the 1156 provides 16 PCI-E lanes where as the socket 2011 provides 40.

I've heard the socket 2011 can do quad-channel for the memory. Can the socket 1156 as well? Thanks.

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Difference between socket 1156 vs 2011.

No one knows any of the differences? I mean, 2011 is the better out of the two, but what exactly makes it better? Is it just the more PCI-E lanes?

[rhomanski]

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I've got a 2011, Spork, but I don't have an 1156. The 2011 is a good motherboard for the most part but it doesn't have a future I don't think. Intel has moved on it seems. I do have four channel on it, I put 64 gb of memory in it. With the biggest and baddest video card available at the time. Two ssd's and four hdd's. A great gaming computer good for rendering video. I never investigated an 1156 so I don't know the difference.

[eccerr0r]

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Yeah, looks like 1155/1156 only supports 2 memory channels.

[diif]

Re: Difference between socket 1156 vs 2011.

The 2011 was their higher end board, supports Xeons and i7s.
No the 1156 can't do quad channel.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Difference between socket 1156 vs 2011.

1156 is the watered down nahlem cpu (first generation core ix). The 1st generation nahlem was originally released on lga 1366 (I have two of these CPU's, one in my gaming rig), which supports triple-channel DDR3

the second/third generation (sandy bridge, ivy-bridge) originally released on LGA 1155 was then released on 2011, which suppports quad-channel memory, and generally 40 pci-E lanes

Haswell was released on LGA 1150, which is dual channel like ivy/sandy bridge, was then released on LGA 2011-V3, which some support 28 PCI-E lanes, and some 40 PCI-E lanes (for 16/16 SLI/Crossfire) and yes, quad channel memory

I don't know much about broadwell, and i'm too lazy to look it up

6th generation, skylake is currently LGA 1151, not sure when theyre going to release a 20xx version of it, but it will likely follow the same patteren, 4 memory channels (256-bit) and 40 pci-E channels

all off the top of my head. Never ask me about AMD processors, don't know much about them

[rhomanski]

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I knew if I answered you somebody would come along to make me look stupid.

[Spork Schivago]

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Thanks for all the answers guys! Pretty much answers everything I needed answered. I know they can do 4-way 16x SLI now. Not enough PCI-E lanes though so they use some sort of multiplexing I think it's called. My sister wants me to build her another PC. Last one I built her was a socket 1366. They had just came out. The video card came DOA and when we sent it back, she just took the money and threw a used 20$ video card from the local PC repair shop in it. I thought that was kinda sad. It still has that 20$ PCI-E video card in it. Such a nice system, minus the video card. Anyway, she said if I build her a new one, she'll give me the old one. That'd be nice.

I see a LOT of socket 1156's floating around. How nice is the quad-channel memory? Is there a noticeable difference between triple channel or dual channel?

[Uranium-235]

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Thanks for all the answers guys! Pretty much answers everything I needed answered. I know they can do 4-way 16x SLI now. Not enough PCI-E lanes though so they use some sort of multiplexing I think it's called.

yeah, but once you get above 2 x16 SLI things get complicated, and some games has performance issues. Some even have issues with dual SLI. I would suggest sticking to dual SLI, forgetting plexing chips

My sister wants me to build her another PC. Last one I built her was a socket 1366. They had just came out. The video card came DOA and when we sent it back, she just took the money and threw a used 20$ video card from the local PC repair shop in it. I thought that was kinda sad. It still has that 20$ PCI-E video card in it. Such a nice system, minus the video card. Anyway, she said if I build her a new one, she'll give me the old one. That'd be nice.

I see a LOT of socket 1156's floating around. How nice is the quad-channel memory? Is there a noticeable difference between triple channel or dual channel?

I played TONS on my i7-920 1366. If it's the B1 version of the chip, you can get it to 3.8-4ghz (originally 2.66). I had the B0 version of the chip and it took me a lot of working and a Cooler master V8 to get it to 4ghz. It can handle any game you can throw at it, even FO4. Triple is marginal over dual but it's still an improvement. I had 12GB.

an i7-920 may be first generation i7 but it's got power, it's passmark score at it's default speed is 4993.

is she a gamer? is she hot?

[Spork Schivago]

Re: Difference between socket 1156 vs 2011.

yeah, but once you get above 2 x16 SLI things get complicated, and some games has performance issues. Some even have issues with dual SLI. I would suggest sticking to dual SLI, forgetting plexing chips




I played TONS on my i7-920 1366. If it's the B1 version of the chip, you can get it to 3.8-4ghz (originally 2.66). I had the B0 version of the chip and it took me a lot of working and a Cooler master V8 to get it to 4ghz. It can handle any game you can throw at it, even FO4. Triple is marginal over dual but it's still an improvement. I had 12GB.

an i7-920 may be first generation i7 but it's got power, it's passmark score at it's default speed is 4993.

is she a gamer? is she hot?

Thanks for the info about the SLI. I didn't know that. She wouldn't be using SLI anyway. It was the i7-920 I put in that beast but I don't know what version it was. I did a lot of research. I'd rather not over-clock her i7 because that means she won't give it to me. Does that make me a bad person?

She's not a gamer. She does a lot of picture editing in Photoshop though. She takes pictures for weddings and stuff. She's extremely overweight and I've never heard any of my friends refer to her as hot. To me, she's just my sister but I'm guessing her soon-to-be-ex-husband found her sexually attractive before he married her. I guess it depends on what you find attractive. She's nice but extremely religious. But it's not so much in a good way but more or less in a bad way, in the sense if something's wrong, for example, not enough cash, she believes if she prays, God will solve the issue and she won't worry about it. This has caused problems in the past and she had to file bankruptcy. She pulled her two children out of school and is home schooling them because up here, they don't teach children religion in public schools. She feels that they only need to learn about her religion and God will take care of them. She doesn't plan on teaching them "the stupid stuff, like math and science".

I think even being home schooled though, they're going to have to take some state tests to prove she's teaching them the proper material and if they're not learning the right stuff, I think the state will step in and say she either has to teach them the other curriculums or she will have to send them back to a real school. Personally, I like her because she's real nice, but I think she might have a screw or two loose somewheres. My parents were foster parents and adopted most of my brothers and sisters including this sister. My other sister Dawn (not the one we're talking about here) and me are the only biological children my mum and dad had together. The other 8 children were adopted.

[Uranium-235]

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Thanks for the info about the SLI. I didn't know that. She wouldn't be using SLI anyway. It was the i7-920 I put in that beast but I don't know what version it was. I did a lot of research. I'd rather not over-clock her i7 because that means she won't give it to me. Does that make me a bad person?

She's not a gamer. She does a lot of picture editing in Photoshop though. She takes pictures for weddings and stuff. She's extremely overweight and I've never heard any of my friends refer to her as hot. To me, she's just my sister but I'm guessing her soon-to-be-ex-husband found her sexually attractive before he married her. I guess it depends on what you find attractive. She's nice but extremely religious. But it's not so much in a good way but more or less in a bad way, in the sense if something's wrong, for example, not enough cash, she believes if she prays, God will solve the issue and she won't worry about it. This has caused problems in the past and she had to file bankruptcy. She pulled her two children out of school and is home schooling them because up here, they don't teach children religion in public schools. She feels that they only need to learn about her religion and God will take care of them. She doesn't plan on teaching them "the stupid stuff, like math and science".

I think even being home schooled though, they're going to have to take some state tests to prove she's teaching them the proper material and if they're not learning the right stuff, I think the state will step in and say she either has to teach them the other curriculums or she will have to send them back to a real school. Personally, I like her because she's real nice, but I think she might have a screw or two loose somewheres. My parents were foster parents and adopted most of my brothers and sisters including this sister. My other sister Dawn (not the one we're talking about here) and me are the only biological children my mum and dad had together. The other 8 children were adopted.

wait shes giving you the i7? after she does you can do whatever you want with it.

I ran P6T-V2 and Dual GTX 285 heavily factor superclocked. Ran wonderfully till those dual cards slowly burned my PCI-E power pins on my ATX motherboard connector (somewhere years back I made a post about it). The video cards drew too much from the bus and not from the power supply connectors. This is why many multi-video card focus motherboards will actually have a PCI-E video card power connector on the motherboard instead of relying on the pci express pins on the ATX connector

and then I got a laptop with a GT 730M that has about the performance of one of those GTX 285's, I didn't see much difference, except I had Z-5500 speakers using a toslink digital connector for dolby live surround. Truly badass system. Would be better if I wasn't 70% deaf in my right ear

oh your sister is one of THOSE people. *shutters*

[Spork Schivago]

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wait shes giving you the i7? after she does you can do whatever you want with it.

I ran P6T-V2 and Dual GTX 285 heavily factor superclocked. Ran wonderfully till those dual cards slowly burned my PCI-E power pins on my ATX motherboard connector (somewhere years back I made a post about it). The video cards drew too much from the bus and not from the power supply connectors. This is why many multi-video card focus motherboards will actually have a PCI-E video card power connector on the motherboard instead of relying on the pci express pins on the ATX connector

and then I got a laptop with a GT 730M that has about the performance of one of those GTX 285's, I didn't see much difference, except I had Z-5500 speakers using a toslink digital connector for dolby live surround. Truly badass system. Would be better if I wasn't 70% deaf in my right ear

oh your sister is one of THOSE people. *shutters*

Yes, she's giving me the i7, supposedly. This will be the third time where she said if I built her a new PC, I could have the old one. Usually something happens, like they end up blowing the money they got for it. She says now that she still wants it, just gotta way till tax time. If I do get it, I have a lot of plans for the socket 1366 i7-920 I built a few years back. Got a nice video card just waiting to go in. I'll probably upgrade the CPU and throw some nice Linux distro on that beast.

[ChaosLegionnaire]

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I'd rather not over-clock her i7 because that means she won't give it to me. Does that make me a bad person?

your sister seems to have some misconceptions about overclocking. do read these anandtech articles about the truth about overclocking and debunking the myths surrounding overclocking:
Determining a Processor Warranty Period
The Truth About Processor "Degradation"

guess that what happens to you when u dont study "falsehoods" and "heretic subjects" like "science" and "math"... no offense to you or your sister...

[Spork Schivago]

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your sister seems to have some misconceptions about overclocking. do read these anandtech articles about the truth about overclocking and debunking the myths surrounding overclocking:
Determining a Processor Warranty Period
The Truth About Processor "Degradation"

I think there was a misunderstanding somewheres. My sister wants a faster PC. I doubt she even knows what overclocking is. I know that when you overclock a CPU it decreases its life span and voids the warranty. I've seen (on videos, not in person) people doing what I like to call super overclocking. Getting really high speeds by using something like liquid nitrogen to cool the system. I feel something like that is more or less for bragging rights because I highly doubt a CPU would last very long with things like thermal expansion (all though I'm not an expert on the subject). I would think even the motherboards would suffer from going from extreme colds to room temperatures.

I know that overclocking would limit the lifespan of her CPU but if she thought it would make it faster, she would more than likely opt for it, and in doing so, she'd more than likely keep the system until it died. I would never get it. I do not plan on overclocking it at all if I do ever get it, just upgrading the CPU and video card, maybe the RAM and hard drive.

guess that what happens to you when u dont study "falsehoods" and "heretic subjects" like "science" and "math"... no offense to you or your sister...

All though they are not my children, I think it is very wrong for her to do this. I try very hard not to push my belief system on other people but I feel when your belief system affects other people, especially in a negative way, something needs to be done. In this case, I feel very much so that her children will suffer by not getting a "proper" education in the school. I feel if the state does not step in, when they're old enough to leave, they will have an extremely hard time finding a job a good job. I could be wrong on this but it's how I feel. I feel that in my country, we currently live in a scientific illiterate society and that this must change in order for this country, possibly even our species, to survive. It worries me very much that she can pull her children out of school and just completely throw away all of the materials that a child needs to learn in order to thrive in this society and teach them solely what she feels is what they need to know.

Shouldn't there be some sort of test parents should have to take in order to homeschool their children? Either show they have the resources to hire a professional to homeschool them or show they're intelligent enough to teach them the proper subject matters?

[Uranium-235]

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I think there was a misunderstanding somewheres. My sister wants a faster PC. I doubt she even knows what overclocking is. I know that when you overclock a CPU it decreases its life span and voids the warranty. I've seen (on videos, not in person) people doing what I like to call super overclocking. Getting really high speeds by using something like liquid nitrogen to cool the system. I feel something like that is more or less for bragging rights because I highly doubt a CPU would last very long with things like thermal expansion (all though I'm not an expert on the subject). I would think even the motherboards would suffer from going from extreme colds to room temperatures.

I know that overclocking would limit the lifespan of her CPU but if she thought it would make it faster, she would more than likely opt for it, and in doing so, she'd more than likely keep the system until it died. I would never get it. I do not plan on overclocking it at all if I do ever get it, just upgrading the CPU and video card, maybe the RAM and hard drive.

the superclocking is for testing purposes only, for competitions. And long term, it's not the heat that kills it, it's the high voltage that does

[ChaosLegionnaire]

Re: Difference between socket 1156 vs 2011.

I know that when you overclock a CPU it decreases its life span and voids the warranty. I've seen (on videos, not in person) people doing what I like to call super overclocking. Getting really high speeds by using something like liquid nitrogen to cool the system. I feel something like that is more or less for bragging rights because I highly doubt a CPU would last very long with things like thermal expansion (all though I'm not an expert on the subject). I would think even the motherboards would suffer from going from extreme colds to room temperatures.

I know that overclocking would limit the lifespan of her CPU but if she thought it would make it faster, she would more than likely opt for it, and in doing so, she'd more than likely keep the system until it died. I would never get it. I do not plan on overclocking it at all if I do ever get it, just upgrading the CPU and video card, maybe the RAM and hard drive.

yea extreme overclocking is completely different from stable 24/7 overclocking. stable 24/7 overclocking is not like the things those guys at xtremesystems.org get up to. those give overclocking a bad name.

i overclock all of my systems. never had a degraded or dead cpu. only had dead motherboards. so cpus can handle overclocking more than you think. these days a cpu will more likely be thrown away because its too slow and obsolete rather than it failing.

All though they are not my children, I think it is very wrong for her to do this. I try very hard not to push my belief system on other people but I feel when your belief system affects other people, especially in a negative way, something needs to be done. In this case, I feel very much so that her children will suffer by not getting a "proper" education in the school. I feel if the state does not step in, when they're old enough to leave, they will have an extremely hard time finding a job a good job. I could be wrong on this but it's how I feel. I feel that in my country, we currently live in a scientific illiterate society and that this must change in order for this country, possibly even our species, to survive. It worries me very much that she can pull her children out of school and just completely throw away all of the materials that a child needs to learn in order to thrive in this society and teach them solely what she feels is what they need to know.

Shouldn't there be some sort of test parents should have to take in order to homeschool their children? Either show they have the resources to hire a professional to homeschool them or show they're intelligent enough to teach them the proper subject matters?

my point is that it is science and technology is what creates growth, which is what michio kaku, the famous hawaiian physicist said.

creation and invention be it a song, storybook, movie or piece of machinery is what creates growth. banking and taxation does not actually create wealth.

[Spork Schivago]

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the superclocking is for testing purposes only, for competitions. And long term, it's not the heat that kills it, it's the high voltage that does

I did not know it was the voltage. I thought it was the extreme temperatures, going from liquid nitrogen temps to room temp, was what killed the boards and CPUs. What do they call that? Thermal expansion or something? Thanks for letting me know about the voltage.

[Spork Schivago]

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yea extreme overclocking is completely different from stable 24/7 overclocking. stable 24/7 overclocking is not like the things those guys at xtremesystems.org get up to. those give overclocking a bad name.

i overclock all of my systems. never had a degraded or dead cpu. only had dead motherboards. so cpus can handle overclocking more than you think. these days a cpu will more likely be thrown away because its too slow and obsolete rather than it failing.

Yeah, I know extreme overclocking is totally different than normal overclocking. I have a socket 775 805D CPU that almost seems to be made for overclocking. It was really cheap but I could get stable speeds (much higher than what it was rated for) by just increasing something like the vCore voltage. I believe that overclocking does change the life of the CPU though. I believe perhaps the higher the speeds, the less it will live. Whether that number is great enough to notice or even care with a modern CPU with stable overclocking, well, that's a different story I guess.

If I do get the i7, I'll probably check the price for the different socket 1366 CPUs out there and see what the board can handle and look into upgrading it if it isn't to expensive. I probably won't overclock it though. As far as what I do on the PC, I don't really need anything too fast. I'm sure even the CPU that's in there now is much faster than what I currently have.

my point is that it is science and technology is what creates growth, which is what michio kaku, the famous hawaiian physicist said.

creation and invention be it a song, storybook, movie or piece of machinery is what creates growth. banking and taxation does not actually create wealth.

I agree with you. I didn't want you thinking my sister and I shared the same belief system. No offense to her, but I think there's something mentally wrong with her. My parents adopted her and her biological brother when they were young and had a rough childhood before we got them. Maybe that messed her up a little bit? I dunno, but she refers to herself in third person. Instead of saying stuff like I'm going to the store, for some reason she says Lore's going to the store. Lore needs to pick up some stuff. Her real name is Loretta but for some reason, she nick named herself Lore (pronounced Lori). It's a bit weird.

[Spork Schivago]

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Hey, don't a lot of the motherboards overclock the RAM? I'll see stuff like this:

DDR4 3300(O.C.)/3000(O.C.)/2800(O.C.)/2666(O.C.)/2400(O.C.)/2133 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory 
Quad Channel Memory Architecture

Seems like 2133 MHz is the only RAM speed they support that doesn't need overclocking. If I bought something like a couple sticks of DDR4 3300 MHz RAM, and popped it into something like the Asus Rampage V Extreme, would the motherboard just automatically configure itself to run the RAM at the higher speeds? Or generally when they list the RAM speeds with the (O.C.) part, does the user have to specifically set the settings?

[diif]

Re: Difference between socket 1156 vs 2011.

Hey, don't a lot of the motherboards overclock the RAM? I'll see stuff like this:

DDR4 3300(O.C.)/3000(O.C.)/2800(O.C.)/2666(O.C.)/2400(O.C.)/2133 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory 
Quad Channel Memory Architecture

Seems like 2133 MHz is the only RAM speed they support that doesn't need overclocking. If I bought something like a couple sticks of DDR4 3300 MHz RAM, and popped it into something like the Asus Rampage V Extreme, would the motherboard just automatically configure itself to run the RAM at the higher speeds? Or generally when they list the RAM speeds with the (O.C.) part, does the user have to specifically set the settings?

Usually need configuring, some motherboard manufacturers offer an auto overclock utility. If you are buying the latest stuff to build a new PC make sure you have a SSD on the shopping list.