Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

[Uranium-235]

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just found this on facebook

[ChaosLegionnaire]

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Hi, I want your opinions on something. Pretty much every review site and youtube channel is praising windows 10 for being revolutionary, amazing and what not. Is everyone high, or is there something wrong with me? Every single windows 10 installation that I've done and used for more than a few weeks has managed to "break" itself in a way. I mean they still boot, but are slow, choppy, the start menu takes like 10 minutes to open (not literally of course), the bult in apps like calculator and calendar display errors or close themselves, immediately after opening them. Worst case was when I got a "start menu and cortana can't start" loop after an automatic update... TWICE!
At first I thought, maybe it's because I'm using it on all of these "old" core 2 duos and first gen i3 laptops. However, I tried it on a desktop system with an i5-2400 and 8gb of ram, but nope still the same shit. All of the built in apps, except onenote and one drive stopped working, when I log in, it feels as if I don't have a proper video driver, since everything is popping up in segments... choppy segments. And on top of that the clock disapears from the full screen picture that's displayed, when you send the PC in standby mode.
Enough complaining, what do you guys think? Is it something on my end or is win10 just bad?
P.S. That last i5 system is running with no AV.

and what u are describing with win10 sounds more like shitty coding/programming.

[stj]

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what the government agency's record / transcribe today they may use against you a year or even a decade from now.
dont be thinking your fucking safe, the hammer came down on eastern europe in a matter of months - the u.s. could go full-stalinist much faster because the infrastructure and frankly the political will is already in place.

europe is already there, if i say HOLOHOAX in france or germany or badmouth a rich footballer or visiting chinese politician in the u.k. the police will send a terror-squad to break the door down - literally - to arrest me.

[RJARRRPCGP]

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I am not disagreeing that Windows 10 may do that... but the NSA doesn't care about the conversion I'm having with somebody on Skype (I'm sure they record those too) about WooCommerce theme development.

I agree, it's not like living in Saudi Arabia and being pissed off at the government. Or living in PRC and being pissed off at the government.
(Or the above mentioned two, I would take PRC over Saudi Arabia!)

(In PRC, I 99 percent would have to trash-talk the government to get executed or jailed for life)

(In Saudi Arabia, it's very likely for a folk to get executed or jailed for life even when just a bystander!)

(Yes, radical muslims are that mean, they make PRC look like a saint!)

[RJARRRPCGP]

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Hi, I want your opinions on something. Pretty much every review site and youtube channel is praising windows 10 for being revolutionary, amazing and what not. Is everyone high, or is there something wrong with me? Every single windows 10 installation that I've done and used for more than a few weeks has managed to "break" itself in a way. I mean they still boot, but are slow, choppy, the start menu takes like 10 minutes to open (not literally of course), the bult in apps like calculator and calendar display errors or close themselves, immediately after opening them. Worst case was when I got a "start menu and cortana can't start" loop after an automatic update... TWICE!
At first I thought, maybe it's because I'm using it on all of these "old" core 2 duos and first gen i3 laptops. However, I tried it on a desktop system with an i5-2400 and 8gb of ram, but nope still the same shit.

I would have suspected sick hardware, such as a bad drive, bad ATA cable or a bad ATA port.
Maybe a bad RAM slot, especially with Windows error messages. (Suspected with false file-not-found errors)

[Uranium-235]

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I got this Asus gaming laptop loaded with w10. All the software downloads on asus's website are w10/w8.1

I managed to get win7 on here and it works fine but even if I install the asus ATK package (keyboard hotkey manager-the 8.1 download has 7 support) it refuses to change brightness on wake after sleep. if I do uninstall the manager that works, but the keyboard refuses to turn the backlight on. I might have to switch to w10, seems only w8.0 and w7 users are having these problems

[diif]

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Sony, target, talktalk, vtech just off the top of my head.
All nothing to do with Windows10.

Not an IT admins job in those places to write policy, that's a more senior role and the failings were all due to piss poor management, not IT admins. In fact most big businesses don't want to pay for InfoSec, there's nothing to show for it.

[stj]

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if your an it admin for a company that loses millions - or in the airbus case, about 11Billion,
they will blame you for running an unsecured system.
you dont think anybody at board-level will take the blame do you?

[diif]

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if you believe that i can sell you some cheap land and a few bridges.

Got anything to prove otherwise ?

[Spork Schivago]

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if you believe that i can sell you some cheap land and a few bridges.

I'll take a bridge, depending on the condition. Got any pictures?

[stj]

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Businesses should be using Pro or Enterprise versions. No tracking or spying with those versions,

if you believe that i can sell you some cheap land and a few bridges.

[diif]

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Businesses should be using Pro or Enterprise versions. No tracking or spying with those versions, it's the home users that are the beta testers for the Enterprise version.

[stj]

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hmm im not too concerned about the industrial espionage part even on business pcs.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=airbus+esp...t-wt&kv=1&kh=1

[goontron]

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hmm im not too concerned about the industrial espionage part even on business pcs. remember how the badcaps fiasco started? someone thought he pulled off a really good one. a heist that will be remembered. he got that right. remembered for all the wrong reasons!

its fine to put your trade secrets in a pc that u know will be spied on. just dont put all your secrets in! save the really good secrets in your head. dont be intel outside, brainless inside.

I would rather not have any data of that kind shown the the advert networks....
But to each his own i suppose.

[ChaosLegionnaire]

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hmm im not too concerned about the industrial espionage part even on business pcs. remember how the badcaps fiasco started? someone thought he pulled off a really good one. a heist that will be remembered. he got that right. remembered for all the wrong reasons!

its fine to put your trade secrets in a pc that u know will be spied on. just dont put all your secrets in! save the really good secrets in your head. dont be intel outside, brainless inside.

[Spork Schivago]

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XP support was extended several times due to customer demand (because Vista was such a failure and a large percentage of PCs, especially businesses, still had XP at the original end of support). Vista on the other hand has very few users and Microsoft has no plans to extend the support beyond the original "End of Life". It will be interesting to see what happens to Windows 7, it is currently planned to EOL in 2020, but I don't see many business users moving to Windows 10 (a spyware/adware OS may be ok for most home users, lets face it most people don't care and/or are too dumb to realize what the OS is doing in the background, but businesses aren't going to put up with that if it could jeopardize their customer data or trade secrets) so I'd say there is a pretty good chance it will end up being extended as well.

That would be real nice if they continued 7. Out of all of Microsoft OSes, 7 is our favourite. We upgraded the laptop to 10 because it was free and we knew eventually, 7 would be discontinued. Almost all the sensitive stuff we do on the Linux box. There's still a few sensitive stuff my wife does on her laptop here. I just don't trust Windows security. Never really have. Generally, it's fairly easy to get into a Windows machine, especially if it isn't fully updated. Linux tends to be a bit harder.

[dmill89]

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So it's not like XP, where the ended XP support but kept SP1 support going for a bit, and then ended that but kept SP2 support going, and then ended that but kept SP3 support going until that finally ended as well? It's all of Vista ends April 2017, etc? Thanks.

XP support was extended several times due to customer demand (because Vista was such a failure and a large percentage of PCs, especially businesses, still had XP at the original end of support). Vista on the other hand has very few users and Microsoft has no plans to extend the support beyond the original "End of Life". It will be interesting to see what happens to Windows 7, it is currently planned to EOL in 2020, but I don't see many business users moving to Windows 10 (a spyware/adware OS may be ok for most home users, lets face it most people don't care and/or are too dumb to realize what the OS is doing in the background, but businesses aren't going to put up with that if it could jeopardize their customer data or trade secrets) so I'd say there is a pretty good chance it will end up being extended as well.

[Spork Schivago]

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It doesn't matter. Vista support ends April 2017. No more updates or patches.

So it's not like XP, where the ended XP support but kept SP1 support going for a bit, and then ended that but kept SP2 support going, and then ended that but kept SP3 support going until that finally ended as well? It's all of Vista ends April 2017, etc? Thanks.

[retiredcaps]

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Like Vista Service Pack 2 ends 2017 or is that for Vista no-service pack?

It doesn't matter. Vista support ends April 2017. No more updates or patches.

[Spork Schivago]

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Yes, EOL for Vista is 2017, 7 is 2020, 8 is 2023.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/lifecycle

Thanks! I almost thought they were going to end them maybe 2 years after a new Windows OS comes out. For the numbers you listed, is that for the latest service pack? Like Vista Service Pack 2 ends 2017 or is that for Vista no-service pack?