Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

[stj]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

win10 is monitoring your keyboard and mic,
you think speech recognition, and word-weighting bsed flag systems arent in full use?

anybody running software that turns your pc into a bug must be fucking insane - no excuses can cover such things.

[lookimback]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

there is a big difference between monitoring your browsing,
and monitoring your keyboard and microphone

Yes, and it's also not like it's a human going over the data. Computers don't care what you look at. They do what they are programmed to do, without passing any judgment. We want everything for free and somehow they have to get paid for their work. So they monitor our browsing and serve us targeted ads. OK, Google has been doing that for over 10 years. What's new about this?

[stj]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

there is a big difference between monitoring your browsing,
and monitoring your keyboard and microphone

[lookimback]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

Enjoy your two-way mirror.

We're being watched wherever we go anyway. Privacy no longer exists. I walk outside my front door, and to my right there is a police camera with a flashing blue light. The average person is probably on camera at least 50 times a day. This is the world we live in now.

[diif]

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I'm in no way defending their actions and totally agree that the spying and monitoring sucks, they just weren't the first company to do it and i doubt the last, big data is big business.

Not using Windows 10 doesn't stop users being monitored. There aren't many websites that don't have trackers on them, apart from this one, so a genuine thank you.

I think a lot of the avoidance in the corporate environment is due to the cost in time and the lack of benefit to the business and end user. A decent network will keep the user away from the OS and it's just a platform to launch software.

[brethin]

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I will stick with 7 Ultimate for desktops (Former XP x64 fan) until it dies and Server 2008 for my servers till it dies.

[Topcat]

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Imac G5's ? /Busted

After the polymod experiment (which someone donated those to me), they were all taken out of service and sold off or given away. I have one working one left, it hasn't been powered up in years.

Paying removes the nag screen, but not paying doesn't stop you playing. Just like the majority of free games on Android or IOS.
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming...ows-10-1300794

Same thing. When you have to pay them to remove spam from an OS supplied game, that good sir, is inexcusable. I wouldn't know about games on 'droid or IOS, but I'll take your word for it. I don't play games on my phone, thats not what its for....but FWIW, I will not use an app that has ads in it. They are immediately uninstalled.

Nobody is forcing anyone to use the products or companies that monitor/profile and collect data on the users. It's consumer choice, Microsoft just joined all the others that do the same. A dick move for sure for those that are concerned about privacy, but those that really are concerned about being monitored need to think a little more than just their OS doing the dirty on them, when most users are tracked as they browse across the internet.
(It's only those that take steps not to be that aren't)

That goes far beyond privacy invasion. PC's in corporate environments containing potential trade secrets of the businesses that use them, no OS has any reason to collect any type of data from those machines...and these exploits are on by default. Just because M$ is rapidly dying off and losing market share doesn't mean they have to jump on the ad-spam-spyware bandwagon, posing further risks for exploits and compromised data (as if M$ software isn't buggy and insecure enough), and now this. Despicable. ...and they wonder why a lot of corporations are steering away from windows all together, or refusing to downgrade to newer versions... I respect your opinion, but M$ operating systems from win8 to present are indefensible.

[diif]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

Yes they do:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29531...indows-10.html

...and any kind of PC level spying by the OS (whether the reason is malicious or for advertising) is disgraceful and inexcusable. Apple is a disgrace. I have no apple products, and never will.

Paying removes the nag screen, but not paying doesn't stop you playing. Just like the majority of free games on Android or IOS.
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming...ows-10-1300794

Nobody is forcing anyone to use the products or companies that monitor/profile and collect data on the users. It's consumer choice, Microsoft just joined all the others that do the same. A dick move for sure for those that are concerned about privacy, but those that really are concerned about being monitored need to think a little more than just their OS doing the dirty on them, when most users are tracked as they browse across the internet.
(It's only those that take steps not to be that aren't)

[ratdude747]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

Yes they do:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29531...indows-10.html

...and any kind of PC level spying by the OS (whether the reason is malicious or for advertising) is disgraceful and inexcusable. Apple is a disgrace. I have no apple products, and never will.

Imac G5's ? /Busted

[ratdude747]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

Better than Windows 8.0 or vanilla 8.1, trumped easily by modded 8.1 (Classic Shell + ModernMix+a handful of settings tweaks) or 7. Or XP/2000/98SE/95.

(or if you're me, also Arch linux :P )

[Topcat]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

You don't have to pay to use solitaire on Windows 10, and you are no more spied on than Apple does of it's users. The majority of users unless you configure browser addons and use a VPN are tracked across the web anyway.

Yes they do:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/29531...indows-10.html

...and any kind of PC level spying by the OS (whether the reason is malicious or for advertising) is disgraceful and inexcusable. Apple is a disgrace. I have no apple products, and never will.

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

Next year this will happen. What do you think about that.


http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...8-pc-computers

[diif]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

Yes! They love us! Let's all embrace the "New Vista!" We'll be on the winning team, if we only get the "spy-job" special at JiffyLube!

Has nothing to do with spyware in the host system, never has. This is about shitware being disguised as an "OS," and asshole-soft-m$ (and others) not being able to understand "No!" If you can't make that distinction, you've got no place to say anything.

Your postulating that people "are tracked across the web anyway" in no way makes it right; stupid comments such as that one you just made simply give tech-control-freaks more ammo to use. Stupid childish attitudes, that lead to stupid childish comments posted on forums (including here) are picked up on; you're an idiot to think m$ and others don't pick up on that and use it to leverage their next level of "fuck the user."

Keep it up, those excuses and rationalizing. That attitude is why we're where we are now... It's Patty Hearst level stuff. Right up there with "staying legit" by "activating" m$ bullshit. Dumb, stupid-sheeple users, who are somehow "afraid" of "being bad" using a VLK copy of XP Pro, have a non-issue issue over a non-problem, yet go out of their way to "beg permission" to be shat upon by the shit-ware they just paid for!

Didn't I say something about Stockholm syndrome?

If your hate for Windows 10 comes from the lack of privacy, I ask how serious you are about yours, do you block trackers and use a VPN or is it just an outlet to rant on about. How is it stupid to question real privacy when other companies do exactly the same and some far more secretly.

It's clear Microsoft has lost it's way a little and are trying to emulate the success of other companies. Nobody is forced to use Windows 10 and i believe their monitoring is covered in their EULA.

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

I hate 10, my computer on 7 was great never a slow moment. Compared to now on 10 its glitchy slow and just laggy in general. Im going back to 7

Windows 7, after the beta, seemed slow to me! At least back in 2010.....

7 likes to randomly hang too.....
(Sometimes, when logging in, for no good reason, it hangs at a screen with message "Please wait" or a similar screen.)

[kaboom]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

I have an Acer Aspire one in my shop which I put 10 on. I think I like it better that the original OS (Win 7), only in respect to the smooth scrolling. I cant stand that little popup scroll thing Win 7 had, and the touchpad on this is crap, so that probably has something to do with it. I don't use that laptop for anything other than an interface for my USB microscope, and occasionally to look up a datasheet.

Last I checked, the computer was a tool for the user to use- imagine that, a revolutionary concept. Enjoy your two-way mirror.

Expect those datasheets and anything else with "suspicious" filenames (y'know, "copywrong") to vanish after they're checked with the m$ mother$hip databa$e. I hope you realize this was to be implemented in shitsta, but was supposedly unfeasable at the time- something about those netbursts slowing down too much while "indexing service" (my ass) scanned everything and gave you the "windows genuine advantage."

There is some bug which makes it freeze up on the screensaver occasionally and the only recourse is to forcibly reboot. One day I will probably just put Ubuntu on it and be done with it.

What, where? The whole fucking excuse of an OS???

Ubuntu sucks. Smash that shit or do a clean install of 7 pro/ultimate; then turn all the "cutesie" desktop features off.

[kaboom]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

You don't have to pay to use solitaire on Windows 10, and you are no more spied on than Apple does of it's users.

Yes! They love us! Let's all embrace the "New Vista!" We'll be on the winning team, if we only get the "spy-job" special at JiffyLube!

The majority of users unless you configure browser addons and use a VPN are tracked across the web anyway.

Has nothing to do with spyware in the host system, never has. This is about shitware being disguised as an "OS," and asshole-soft-m$ (and others) not being able to understand "No!" If you can't make that distinction, you've got no place to say anything.

Your postulating that people "are tracked across the web anyway" in no way makes it right; stupid comments such as that one you just made simply give tech-control-freaks more ammo to use. Stupid childish attitudes, that lead to stupid childish comments posted on forums (including here) are picked up on; you're an idiot to think m$ and others don't pick up on that and use it to leverage their next level of "fuck the user."

Keep it up, those excuses and rationalizing. That attitude is why we're where we are now... It's Patty Hearst level stuff. Right up there with "staying legit" by "activating" m$ bullshit. Dumb, stupid-sheeple users, who are somehow "afraid" of "being bad" using a VLK copy of XP Pro, have a non-issue issue over a non-problem, yet go out of their way to "beg permission" to be shat upon by the shit-ware they just paid for!

Didn't I say something about Stockholm syndrome?

[lookimback]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

I have an Acer Aspire one in my shop which I put 10 on. I think I like it better that the original OS (Win 7), only in respect to the smooth scrolling. I cant stand that little popup scroll thing Win 7 had, and the touchpad on this is crap, so that probably has something to do with it. I don't use that laptop for anything other than an interface for my USB microscope, and occasionally to look up a datasheet. There is some bug which makes it freeze up on the screensaver occasionally and the only recourse is to forcibly reboot. One day I will probably just put Ubuntu on it and be done with it.

[ReeceyBurger123]

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I hate 10, my computer on 7 was great never a slow moment. Compared to now on 10 its glitchy slow and just laggy in general. Im going back to 7

[diif]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

You don't have to pay to use solitaire on Windows 10, and you are no more spied on than Apple does of it's users. The majority of users unless you configure browser addons and use a VPN are tracked across the web anyway.

[ivtec]

Re: Windows 10 benefits - Are there any?

Win 10 is not bad for me so far so good,the only thing i don't like and don't use is Edge or IE11 because both are crappy,compared to Chrome or Firefox are close to nothing.