Flash?

[goontron]

Who here still uses Flash Player/Faildobe flash?

[diif]

Re: Flash?

Yep. I don't have any issues and as long as it's kept updated i have little to fear from exploit kits. YouTube defaults to HTML5 now so it's rarely used anyway.
Generally the only time Flash gets used is then i watch TV online through my ISPs website as it claims Chrome is out of date.

[c_hegge]

Re: Flash?

Flash isn't dead yet. HTML5 may be capable of largely replacing its functionality, but not every website has it implemented yet. Besides, I don't think it's as bloated or badly written as everyone makes it out to be. Even my 8 year old Thinkpad T60 with onboard Intel graphics has absolutely no problem with 1080p flash videos.

[stj]

Re: Flash?

as long as it's kept updated i have little to fear from exploit kits..

that's bullshit,
the exploits are used long before they go public.

maybe if adobe didnt keep putting backdoors & stuff in, it wouldnt need constant updates!!

[shovenose]

Re: Flash?

Develop in Flash? No, this isn't the 90s. Occasionally come across a website that uses Flash Player? Of course! But slowly those are being phased out for newer standards which is great.

[goontron]

Re: Flash?

that's bullshit,
the exploits are used long before they go public.

maybe if adobe didnt keep putting backdoors & stuff in, it wouldnt need constant updates!!

Develop in Flash? No, this isn't the 90s. Occasionally come across a website that uses Flash Player? Of course! But slowly those are being phased out for newer standards which is great.

exactly!

[diif]

Re: Flash?

that's bullshit,
the exploits are used long before they go public.

maybe if adobe didnt keep putting backdoors & stuff in, it wouldnt need constant updates!!

There is a difference between those that find them and those that use exploit kits.

Adobe adding backdoors is bullshit.

[Compgeke]

Re: Flash?

I actually avoid flash as much as possible. I do have the Chrome flash but all plugins are set to click-to-run. Typically if it wants Flash (or any plugin) I don't use it.

[stj]

Re: Flash?

There is a difference between those that find them and those that use exploit kits.

Adobe adding backdoors is bullshit.

if you actually wrote code like i did for years, you would know that a bug almost always crashes the program or breaks something.
it does NOT give someone remote access or change priveliges.
that takes a lot of extra code, not screwing a byte or 2.

as more people learn how to use computers the old bullshit about "hackers can take over your machine because of a bug in the browser etc." is not going to wash any more!

[diif]

Re: Flash?

if you actually wrote code like i did for years, you would know that a bug almost always crashes the program or breaks something.
it does NOT give someone remote access or change priveliges.
that takes a lot of extra code, not screwing a byte or 2.

as more people learn how to use computers the old bullshit about "hackers can take over your machine because of a bug in the browser etc." is not going to wash any more!

I don't need to code to know about bugs, whilst i agree a bug on it's own is mostly harmless, they have been used for years as a jumping off point for other activities. The bug allows for other code to be injected, so i would say that bugs do allow hackers to take over a machine.

This year again at PWN2OWN every one of the browsers was compromised by a bug, leading to privilege escalation.
So yes they can take over your machine due to bugs, that's what the many exploit kits such as Blackhole, Mpack, White Lotus etc use, although most attack addons suck as Flash, Java and Adobe reader.