hard drive spin up problems

[pentium]

Ever since I got my Sparcstation 1+ I have been having trouble with one of it's internal drives. I am assuming something between sticktation and a bad connector but anyways, here's what's going on.
The drive in question is a Quantum Empire series ProDrive SCSI disk that's full height 3 1/2 and of unknown size. If you were to remove the drive, hold it in your hand and power up, if the drive were not to spin up you would feel the drive try to twist in your hand several times brfore giving up. If the drive did spin up then you would feel no twisting motion.
The problem occurs in any temperateure and at any time (if not used in months to right after you switched it off). It will not stop while the drive is spinning and is completely random at times.
I'm siding with really nasty sticktation but what's your word?

[willawake]

Re: hard drive spin up problems

its too old. time for the trash...bearings are shot....

[pentium]

Re: hard drive spin up problems

Tell me that tomorrow and I'll trust you.

[willawake]

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why? i think better when i am drunk

[dood]

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Stick 'er in the freezer and see if the problems continue. If not, then it's very likely the drive is shot.

[pentium]

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But I said that this happens no matter what the temperature.
At the very least, I need topcat to confirm TRUTHFULLY.
After that I can start looking for a new scsi disk.

[kc8adu]

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recover any data you need and dump it.
quantum empire were duds when new.
after 4 exchanges on mine they mailed me a check for $700 and someodd.
defective design.

[Rainbow]

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I've had IDE Quantum ProDrive LPS in my print server and it had problems spinning up - it retried maybe 4 times with "beep" sound and then stopped. I replaced it with another one and this one succeeds after two or three retries.

[willawake]

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At the very least, I need topcat to confirm TRUTHFULLY.

does he have to swear on the bible? i dont know if he is religious

[pentium]

Re: hard drive spin up problems

Okay will, it's the second of april now.
What condition do you say the drive is?

[kc8adu]

Re: hard drive spin up problems

JUNK!
now back it up before your data goes to hdd hell with it.
hint...
i get paid very well to recover data from dead drives.
if the data is important nows the time to save it...if you can get it to come ready again.
/freeadvice

[dood]

Re: hard drive spin up problems

But I said that this happens no matter what the temperature.
At the very least, I need topcat to confirm TRUTHFULLY.
After that I can start looking for a new scsi disk.

What the hell is this? Nobody's word is good, except Topcat???

[willawake]

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[starfury1]

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Dood

think Pentium my have been referring to April 1

which is why the;

Tell me that tomorrow and I'll trust you.

yep pentium is

Okay will, it's the second of april now.
What condition do you say the drive is?

[dood]

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Dood

think Pentium my have been referring to April 1

which is why the;





yep pentium is

I understand this... just wondering what Topcat has to do with it???

[willawake]

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me too...who he?....who we?

[Topcat]

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What the hell is this? Nobody's word is good, except Topcat???

Hey!! I can't help it that I'm a genius!!! Seriously though, good advise all around here.... The first thing I would cables, I've seen bad SCSI cables cause weird things like that.... I doubt its overheating, especially if its 5400RPM... If it is overheating, there really isn't much u can do except keep it cooled long enough to recover data from it and then toss it. It being a Quantum, that's not a good sign... Everyone remember the Quantum 'Bigfoot'?? LOL If you need some SCSI drives, let me know, I have a big box full of them.

[pentium]

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I love bigfoot drives!
I got a 2.5 gig here that's got bad blocks but it still works great.
In the case of the drive, I really don't have the ability to do a backup.
1-the system is getting many disk errors so it seems both drives are going on me
2-None of my systems (not even linux) can see the partitions properly. They see that there are several partitions but they all look unformatted to ubuntu.
I'm working on getting SunOS reinstalled. I just want to see what the last owner had stashed away.

Why did I want topcat?
Well being the site creator and server manager and all I jumped to conclusions and thought that if anyone knwe haow a hard drive worked on this site...it would be him.
I completely forgot that others also know the inner workings of a hard drive.

[kc8adu]

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how the hell do you call a drive with bad blocks "working great"

[bgavin]

Re: hard drive spin up problems

JUNK!
now back it up before your data goes to hdd hell with it.
hint...
i get paid very well to recover data from dead drives.
if the data is important nows the time to save it...if you can get it to come ready again.

+1

I also get paid well to recover data, and now is the time to save yourself some real grief, and (potentially) horrific expense.

As noted above, the freezer trick works... once. Put the drive in a plastic bag and squish all the air out. Freeze it solid. Thaw it out completely and let it regain room temperature.

Connect it to a system that is all prepared to accept data, make a GHOST image, or whatever you use to get the data. In my experience, you have one (1) try at this, then the drive fails for good.