Get Firefox 10 on PowerPC macs

[shovenose]

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Multiple shitty flash ads - just what everyone needs... (and why I block most of them except on decent sites like this one)

Flash video players need to die. Bring on HTML5 video.

Agreed... I always laugh when websites for huge corporations have their entire header in flash so I can't even navigate the website... (on my android tablet I have it set not to show flash until I allow specific elements per site)..!

[Topcat]

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...pre-firefox, mozilla here- aka netscape-zilla. A nice "tight" setup, behind webwasher and a hosts file. When I need "fancy" things to work, it's Iron, with "gears.dll" deleted.

Wowza...what OS? I used netscape until FF came out....old ass version, I forgot which....but it was severely out of date when FF1.0 came out, and I switched over....that way I dodged IE all together.

Well, I'm not gonna be in "A Gem Of A Jam"- no 'cute' browsers here. What a way to insult users... Make it appeal to people with "rounded corners" and all-lowercase letters, then stick "something" in there since "newer is better."

No insult, just a little slap-happy stoogology....no need to visit the "Dizzy Doctors"...

[lti]

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no HW acceleration is a very GOOD thing now a days. Websites are getting more complex, using HTML5/CSS transparency, multiple flash ads. If I disable hardware acceleration in FF I can really see a difference

They don't appear to be any more complex to me. Flash is getting slower and they are using more tracking services. The tracking elements and the insane amount of ads are what make pages slow and are also the source of most malware.

Flash video players need to die. Bring on HTML5 video.

HTML5 isn't much faster. I think that everyone should use the computer's built-in media player like they did 12 years ago. The resolution and quality of most videos hasn't improved in 12 years (except on sites that force everyone to watch HD videos), but now a Core i3 struggles to play them while a Pentium II would have had no problem playing the same video 13 years ago. A Pentium 4 can play HD video in Windows Media Player, but the same computer can't play a 320x240 Flash or HTML5 video.

Indeed, Firefox takes advantage of powerful hardware...

No, it is so slow that it requires powerful hardware.

[Uranium-235]

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They don't appear to be any more complex to me. Flash is getting slower and they are using more tracking services. The tracking elements and the insane amount of ads are what make pages slow and are also the source of most malware.

yup. Most of the time websites with a header ad and a side ad will end up with having two of the same ads showing on the same page, useless. But they're also starting to make flash ads with blending and other advanced (and useless) graphics, making a website god awful slow unless you have a i5 or higher /w accelerated ff

No, it is so slow that it requires powerful hardware.

sort-of. Its more advanced, but it performs wonderfully with win7 + 2GB + high dual-core or medium triple core + decent dx9 graphics. FF looks forward, toward more powerful computers, so it can add more features, cause in the end, thats where everything is headed

[kaboom]

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No insult, just a little slap-happy stoogology....no need to visit the "Dizzy Doctors"...

By "insult," I meant how certain software creators (using that term loosely) 'attract' users/suckers into downloading their trash by way of bright colors and other glitz, fully knowing that certain "extras" will go unnoticed.

I "soitenly" wasn't referring to your comment!

[kaboom]

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Flash is getting slower and they are using more tracking services. The tracking elements and the insane amount of ads are what make pages slow and are also the source of most malware.

Someone who GETS IT.

HTML5 isn't much faster. I think that everyone should use the computer's built-in media player like they did 12 years ago. The resolution and quality of most videos hasn't improved in 12 years (except on sites that force everyone to watch HD videos), but now a Core i3 struggles to play them while a Pentium II would have had no problem playing the same video 13 years ago. A Pentium 4 can play HD video in Windows Media Player, but the same computer can't play a 320x240 Flash or HTML5 video.

But... but... If you just had a simple file to play in MPC or whatever, there'd be no white space for ads! Oh the humanity!

No, it is so slow that it requires powerful hardware.

Q: How many I7s does it take to run failurefox?
A: You can never have enough!

[Uranium-235]

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Q: How many I7s does it take to run failurefox?
A: You can never have enough!

as I said BEFORE. If you run it under win7 on a core i5 or a AthlonII x3 with 2 gigs of ram decent dx9 graphics, it run REALLY smoothly. I said that like 3 times before. HAVE you actually ran ff 10 in this kind of environment? or are you still stuck with XP? Nothing wrong with XP, but it don't take advantage of newer hardware like 7 does. Don't even mention vista BTW. I even though its NT 6.0 and 7 is NT 6.1, they run VERY differently

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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But wait, wasn't the topic about getting the newest firefox ON A MAC??? What are you doing with the xp/win7 debate over again?

[Topcat]

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as I said BEFORE. If you run it under win7 on a core i5 or a AthlonII x3 with 2 gigs of ram decent dx9 graphics, it run REALLY smoothly. I said that like 3 times before. HAVE you actually ran ff 10 in this kind of environment? or are you still stuck with XP? Nothing wrong with XP, but it don't take advantage of newer hardware like 7 does. Don't even mention vista BTW. I even though its NT 6.0 and 7 is NT 6.1, they run VERY differently

FF10 is running fine on this machine. XP x64, c2d t6600 2.2ghz with 4gb ram. silky smooth.

It runs slick as snot on my home system as well. a pair of quadcore e5520's with 24gb RAM, and yup.....XP Pro x64. I also have FF10 on a Dell GX745, 2gb RAM and a pentium-D @ 2.8, XP Pro 32 bit this time...in which also runs it fine.

[shovenose]

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Waterfox works great on my Lenovo laptop with a Core i5 CPU, 6GB RAM, SSD, and Intel graphics...
Waterfox is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the normal Firefox... if you've got a 64-bit OS I would HIGHLY recommend it...

Maybe this thread should be renamed to "Interesting Firefox 10/11 discussoin" instead of "Get firefox on PowerPC macs"??

[Uranium-235]

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But wait, wasn't the topic about getting the newest firefox ON A MAC??? What are you doing with the xp/win7 debate over again?

there is very little that can be discussed with firefox on an antiquated architecture. Talking (bitching?) about firefox in general was inevitable

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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Well, i'd still be using Windows 98SE if it would actually work on modern hardware, but that's a different topic entirely... I'm fine with Win7. And Opera. Take that.

My only opinion about the current Firefox, since i haven't been watching its development for years, is that they started incrementing version numbers way too fast lately. Maybe that's why all the new crap that old users end up hating - we have a new version number, we have to put something new and different in it!

[shovenose]

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Well, i'd still be using Windows 98SE if it would actually work on modern hardware, but that's a different topic entirely... I'm fine with Win7. And Opera. Take that.

My only opinion about the current Firefox, since i haven't been watching its development for years, is that they started incrementing version numbers way too fast lately. Maybe that's why all the new crap that old users end up hating - we have a new version number, we have to put something new and different in it!

I've been using Opera on my MacBook Air... I like it quite a bit... it feels more responsive than Firefox does.
But both are fast on that computer so it's hard to judge. Opera doesn't seem to do as good a job remembering my logins/passwords, the checkboxes are ugly on websites, the font is rendered too small, and I wish I could disable Speed Dial... but other than that it's a great browser!

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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Heh, we diverge a bit here. I *can't live* without Speed Dial in my browser! Actually, there's a Speed Dial extension for Firefox too.

I think your text rendering issue has to do with using a Mac. Text has always been iffy in unix-based operating system... They could make it look better (about 3 years back, after 2 days of work i got real nice fonts in Ubuntu, and consistent everywhere), but they just don't bother. I was actually surprised when i found out that text looks just as bad (IMHO of course) on a Mac as it does on a Linux box.

Actually the main reason why i would still choose Windows over other OSes, even if it is about things that all OSes can do equally, it's the font rendering.

[shovenose]

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Generally, I've noticed that Linux-based OSes (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) have shitty font rendering...
Mac OS X is significantly better but still not great. Firefox and Safari and Chrome do it the same, Opera noticeably worse.
Windows is very good at it! Crisp, but not pixelated. I agree with you though

Firefox is introducing something within the next few versions, like on Chrome (Frequently visited pages on New Tab page) but I hope it can be turned off, because I like my New Tab page clean...

How do I disable Speed Dial in Opera?

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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How do I disable Speed Dial in Opera?

Took me exactly 10 seconds to google: http://www.yourdigitalspace.com/2011...a-web-browser/

The Opera Configuration page has a ton of cool stuff in it. Of course, you can easily break the browser if you don't know what you're doing, but i think you knew that already.

[shovenose]

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One last thing. Is there a 64-bit opera for Mac OS X and Windows?

[Uranium-235]

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One last thing. Is there a 64-bit opera for Mac OS X and Windows?

took me 10 seconds too. The answer is 'yes' but there are still issues with it

http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/6...cess-plug-ins/

jeez shove learn how to use google

[shovenose]

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Yeah it's called laziness :P

Edit: Couldn't find a download link of the 64-bit so I just installed Opera Next (alpha 12), and made it look more like Firefox by disabling the loading bar in the address bar and making the new tab page blank.
I like it... but I'm going to continue using Waterfox as my main browser because I have no reason to switch to Opera given that Waterfox works wonderfully for me...

[c_hegge]

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At least this never happens when running firefox in Mac: