Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

Installed this motherboard. Front USB header, my case has 2 front USB ports. How do i connect them to the motherboard.
Does everthing look okay ?

[mariushm]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

You read the manual and you find out there's a blue header on the motherboard, which has written near it USB.

[c_hegge]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

^
Yup. It's just in front of and slightly above the middle PCI slot

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

The USB header do I need to connect both or just one

The MS-6340 motherboard, I was heating the leads on the caps with my old crappy soldering iron, it went to the side the capacitor, it also got warm.

When I was heating it to remove the bad ones.Is that normal. I did not completely remove it I though it would explode ?
I was pulling in it as I was heating the leads on the back of it!

[mariushm]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

Each usb connector has 4 wires going to it :

Vcc = 5v power

DD- and DD+ = data transmission

GND

So that header is a pair of USB connector receptacles.

If you have two usb connectors on the front case, it's obvious you have to connect both, doesn't that make sense ?

You have an additional pin in that header called NC (not connected) that's there just so you won't put the connectors the wrong way. This way you know the Vcc pin is always on the side opposite to the side with a missing pin.

Regarding heating of the capacitor, of course it will get hot, but if you replace capacitors you won't be concerned about the old capacitors, you can throw those away. They won't explode from just getting heat up, it's unlikely you'll make so much gas from heating up the capacitor that it would blow up.

The new capacitors having long leads won't cause the capacitor to heat up that fast and you're supposed to be heating the leads only for 2-3 seconds, maybe a bit more, as you put new solder on the hole.

That's why high power solder irons are recommended for motherboards, so that the copper on the motherboard won't cool the iron tip and force you to heat up that lead for an extended period of time.

Soldering is a normally a fast job, heat lead and pad, add solder, remove solder wire, remove solder iron tip, done : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...M-lGxvzo#t=76s

[Northeastern292]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

I brought home an old Socket A mobo from Eastern Europe that had just about every cap blown. Had I known what I know now, I would have saved the board.

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

http://uk.farnell.com/duratool/d0079...lug/dp/1568160

http://www.maplin.co.uk/30w-solderin...-32909#reviews

I am trying to properly fix a 2 speaker to a 3.5mm mini jack plug.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/3-5mm-Black-.../dp/B006GTSBX2

For example. the solder is stuck in the holes where the wire goes through ?
Any advice both mains powered soldering irons, don't work well with silver solder.
The only kind to use here in the UK.

I brought home an old Socket A mobo from Eastern Europe that had just about every cap blown. Had I known what I know now, I would have saved the board.

Trust me get a 60w soldering iron, I don't know which.
Silver solder is tough the 40w duratool, I held the pencil tip on the side where more heat was.
These are crap.

[mariushm]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

http://uk.farnell.com/duratool/d0079...lug/dp/1568160

http://www.maplin.co.uk/30w-solderin...-32909#reviews

I am trying to properly fix a 2 speaker to a 3.5mm mini jack plug.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/3-5mm-Black-.../dp/B006GTSBX2

For example. the solder is stuck in the holes where the wire goes through ?
Any advice both mains powered soldering irons, don't work well with silver solder.
The only kind to use here in the UK.



Trust me get a 60w soldering iron, I don't know which.
Silver solder is tough the 40w duratool, I held the pencil tip on the side where more heat was.
These are crap.

You can use solder wick (also called braid) to absorb the solder from the holes:

http://uk.farnell.com/braid

preferably get the ones that have flux on them, otherwise you should put a drop of flux on the wick when using.
Add a bit of solder to the metal part, pull out a cm or so of wick, put it over solder, heat it up with iron and solder should wick/suck itself on the braid.

Don't understand the part

Any advice both mains powered soldering irons, don't work well with silver solder.
The only kind to use here in the UK.

You probably mean unleaded solder, not silver solder. The unleaded solders are about 93-99.99% Sn (Tin)

There are solder wires with various degrees of Silver in them (up to 2-3%) but those are mostly recommended for surface mounted components, not for general use.

And "the only kind to use in UK" ... there's no law in UK or Europe saying you have to use only unleaded solder, just RoHS bans lead from being used to produce electronics. However, there are exemptions to RoHS regarding various types of electronics (avionics, medical, stuff that's used in various environments etc) and it probably wouldn't be illegal for you to use leaded solder to repair electronics. It's certainly not a crime and you won't poison anyone (or something like that) if you use leaded solder.

There may even be an exception (but I'm not sure and I may be completely wrong) that specifies being OK to use leaded solder for re-work or repairing stuff.

You can use leaded solder and you can certainly buy it from Farnell or other stores, if you are willing to get some, get 63/37 or 60/40 or 60/38/2 with a good amount of no-clean flux in it, and if possible with a diameter below 1mm... these would be great:

http://uk.farnell.com/stannol/hs10-2...250g/dp/817510
http://uk.farnell.com/multicore-sold...71mm/dp/609961

And i already recommended to you and others, if you plan to repair stuff often, buy a soldering station... even a cheap 60w one would be good

http://uk.farnell.com/tenma/21-10115...-uk/dp/2064549

[LLLlllou]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

http://img405.*************/img405/319/p1000592y.jpg

It supposed to look like this ?

What do you think YOU'D look like if you were held at several hundred degrees in an oxygen/nitrogen environment?

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

One thing about soldering station do they give you a high electricity bill.

[mariushm]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

Soldering stations are 60-100w, the cheaper ones are more towards the 60 watts value.

Picture a soldering station like a light bulb in your house, a 60w one - you probably have 75-100w incandescent lightbulbs, if you didn't move completely to using fluorescent lights.

The soldering stations are even more ergonomic because they don't work all the time. A light bulb in your house is running all the time while on. A soldering station runs at full power only while the heating element brings the tip to the specified temperature and stops using power when the tip is hot enough.

In fact, you can argue that because of this behavior (turning off when tip is hot enough and back on when it cools too much), soldering stations are less power hungry than those sticks that plug directly in the wall. Those 30-40w sticks are using 30-40w all the time, even when tip reached the desired temperature.

But even if the soldering station would run all the time using 60w (always heating the tip without stopping), you're probably paying up to 0.2 uk pouds us cents for 1 kWh (1000 watts hour). That means it would take 1000 wh/ 60w = 16.66 hours of using a soldering station full time, always heating the tip, to add 0.2 uk pounds on your electricity bill.

Since the station stops and starts, just average to about 20-25w of power consumption - it would take about 3 days of continuous use to use 1 kWh.

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

You can use solder wick (also called braid) to absorb the solder from the holes:

http://uk.farnell.com/braid

preferably get the ones that have flux on them, otherwise you should put a drop of flux on the wick when using.
Add a bit of solder to the metal part, pull out a cm or so of wick, put it over solder, heat it up with iron and solder should wick/suck itself on the braid.

Don't understand the part


You probably mean unleaded solder, not silver solder. The unleaded solders are about 93-99.99% Sn (Tin)

There are solder wires with various degrees of Silver in them (up to 2-3%) but those are mostly recommended for surface mounted components, not for general use.

And "the only kind to use in UK" ... there's no law in UK or Europe saying you have to use only unleaded solder, just RoHS bans lead from being used to produce electronics. However, there are exemptions to RoHS regarding various types of electronics (avionics, medical, stuff that's used in various environments etc) and it probably wouldn't be illegal for you to use leaded solder to repair electronics. It's certainly not a crime and you won't poison anyone (or something like that) if you use leaded solder.

There may even be an exception (but I'm not sure and I may be completely wrong) that specifies being OK to use leaded solder for re-work or repairing stuff.

You can use leaded solder and you can certainly buy it from Farnell or other stores, if you are willing to get some, get 63/37 or 60/40 or 60/38/2 with a good amount of no-clean flux in it, and if possible with a diameter below 1mm... these would be great:

http://uk.farnell.com/stannol/hs10-2...250g/dp/817510
http://uk.farnell.com/multicore-sold...71mm/dp/609961

And i already recommended to you and others, if you plan to repair stuff often, buy a soldering station... even a cheap 60w one would be good

http://uk.farnell.com/tenma/21-10115...-uk/dp/2064549

A review fo that soldering station on Amazon.com



First of all, the seller MCM Electronics, has censored my review on their website and deleted other reviews for this product that discuss how bad it is. Do not trust the glowing reviews that are up there.

This thing is just cheap junk that is made by another company and rebranded with the Tenma name.

First the soldering Iron stand wasn't even made for this iron. It clearly doesn't rest in it correctly. It was made for some other design and just used again and packaged with this model.

Mine never heated consistently, some times 400 would be fine and other times I would have to crank up the temp higher. Using an infrared thermometer I found that it was not accurate each time I used it.

Then one day the ceramic heating element cracked as I was using it. It couldn't take the repeated heating and became brittle. MCM only sells the replacement soldering iron, no element sold separately.

Buy something better that is more expensive and save yourself the frustration in the long run. You will want something better later and why waste the money and time with this cheap junk.

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRb1_DB234Q

Cheap junk that is reviewed in this video, that it's no better than a mains iron.

[momaka]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

The station itself is not at fault. It's the tip design. All of the stations that use the 900M tips are crap.
Try an Aoyue 2600 (or equivalent) with T12 or T15 tips, and it's a whole different world. The station itself isn't higher quality, but the design of the T12/T15 tips is what makes the difference.

But I agree with you: most of the time, a mains iron will do just as well if not better than those cheap stations with the 900M tips.

[stj]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

it probably wouldn't be illegal for you to use leaded solder to repair electronics. It's certainly not a crime and you won't poison anyone (or something like that) if you use leaded solder.

WRONG.
you cant use leaded solder to repair or modify anything originally manufactured to be ROHS compliant.

nobody will know if it's for yourself, but if your doing comercial repairs, the fine is huge.
something like £50,000 or more.

[c_hegge]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

^
Whaaaaaaat?! That's absolutely ridiculous. I'm glad I don't live in Europe.

[Fast Alpha]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

Lead got removed from paint, because it can be bad for your health.

Have any of you heard of health and safety. Get some knowledge fools.

World's_Craziest_Fools.

http://www.nytimes.com/health/guides.../overview.html

http://www.southend.nhs.uk/pathology...-l-index/lead/

[Sparkey55]

Re: Old AMD socket A motherboard replacement.

Lead got removed from paint, because it can be bad for your health.

Have any of you heard of health and safety. Get some knowledge fools.

This fool here (me) has been working in lead, asbestos, formaldahyde, garnet, heptane, toulene, and so on all my adult life. I can still see good with my three eyes.