What does everyone think about Panasonic FRs?
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To early to tell so far for if they last.
but also they look generic
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I've used some of them, they seem to work just fine. They measure a slight higher on ESR compared to FM series. But they should have a fair bit longer life.
And then you just have to live with the odd looking of the cap, missing logo.
I've sourced mine from RS Components.Comment
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Yeah they look and feel cheap but so far haven't heard anything bad about them. Life and ESR ratings are very close to ZLH but they can't match the ripple rating. Not sure how I feel about them yet.Comment
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FR ESR & Ripple is virtually identical to FM.
For most sizes it IS identical.
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Panasonic FR is all about super long life with decent ESR. Rubycon ZL and YXG are good comparisons and are almost as good as UCC LXY and LXZ. They aren't anywhere near the ripple and ESR of modern Vcore capacitors. Compare FR to UCC KZJ or Nichicon HN.
FR won't be showing up on motherboards any time soon, even the ultra durable ones.Comment
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Nope.
FR are clearly better than ZL and ~FAR~ above YXG.
FR have better Ripple and ESR than ZL and YXG aren't even close.
The only common cap FR compares directly to is FM.
8x20mm FM ... 1560mA - .030 ohm
8x20mm FR . 1560mA - .030 ohm
8x20mm ZL . .. 1250mA - .041 ohm
8x20mm YXG .. 1050mA - .069 ohm
10x20mm FM ... 2180mA - .019 ohm
10x20mm FR . 2180mA - .020 ohm
10x20mm ZL .. . 1820mA - .023 ohm
10x20mm YXG .. 1400mA - .046 ohm
FR are in effect a long-life FM.
[Although FM never has problems that way anyway.]
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ZLs are more for high end audiophiles, ZLH ZLJ are a better comparison.Comment
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I know that audiophools like the ZL and ZLx series but if you search audio applications in Rubycon's application guide -NONE- of those will come up at all.
http://www.rubycon.co.jp/en/tech/application.aspx
- So, I'm not sure where the audiophools got that idea. - It wasn't from Rubycon.
They do come up under SMPS applications and some other things.
That's what those series are 'for'.
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If they happen to make audiophools happy then I'm glad they're happy.
I've always considered them sort of 'happy' anyway. - LOL.
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I can't tell the difference but the experts say it so it must be true:
Source:
http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me...gory_Code=RUBYComment
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I thought FR was just miniaturized FM...
They have come in handy for me in the past.Comment
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Audiophiles are nuts.
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