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  • Amraks
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2011
    • 725
    • Australia

    #1

    Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

    History:
    PSU only recapped.
    This TV was not turning on a few weeks ago I then recapped it as I recall I swapped all capacitors except a 163v 1uf as I didn't have this value.
    A few weeks pass.
    The TV now is coming back to me with with a picture fault.
    https://youtu.be/sYJE7VpX4yE
    Any idea what may cause this? could it be that 163v 1uf I didn't recap?

    Just want this customer to have their tv back as I have their other one at the moment as well.
    Last edited by Amraks; 12-12-2018, 06:00 AM.
  • Hamie
    Badcaps Legend
    • Apr 2014
    • 1383
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

    Try heating the main board metal shield. If the picture comes back then it's probably the 2 x 1000uf caps under the tin work.

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    • Amraks
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Nov 2011
      • 725
      • Australia

      #3
      Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

      They where replaced though with new ones. forget which brand I used for them.
      Ill check their ESR when it comes back.

      Any idea what the 1uf 163v would do?

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      • Amraks
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Nov 2011
        • 725
        • Australia

        #4
        Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

        Oh Oops just noticed you meant the mainboard I originally recapped the PSU board.

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        • drussell
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 144
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

          Just a quick aside... There is no such thing as a 163 volt capacitor rating. 63? Yes. 100? Sure. 150 or 200? Yup...

          Even 160 and 165 are something that (while rare), do actually exist but I've never seen a 163 volt capacitor.

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          • Amraks
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Nov 2011
            • 725
            • Australia

            #6
            Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

            its a 160v not sure how I got 163v.

            I can not see how it could be a cap on the mainboard as they are smd
            Last edited by Amraks; 12-17-2018, 06:49 PM.

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            • nomoresonys
              Badcaps Legend
              • Jan 2013
              • 12097
              • U.S.

              #7
              Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

              Video resembles a tcon problem?

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              • Amraks
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Nov 2011
                • 725
                • Australia

                #8
                Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                Heres a better video now I have the tv in my hands.
                https://youtu.be/d3zCpfB23Sg

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                  Originally posted by Amraks
                  its a 160v not sure how I got 163v.

                  I can not see how it could be a cap on the mainboard as they are smd
                  What do you mean by ' how it could be a cap on the main board as they are SMD'? SMD is just a form factor, so if it is SMD lytics cap then they can still fail just like other lytics caps.
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • Amraks
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 725
                    • Australia

                    #10
                    Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                    I thought they where rare to fail budm.

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                    • nomoresonys
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 12097
                      • U.S.

                      #11
                      Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                      Try heating things with a hairdryer on the mainboard and tcon, see if picture changes and maybe the one ribbon at a time tcon check.

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                      • Amraks
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 725
                        • Australia

                        #12
                        Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                        I checked both sides of the tcon left and right, left side pulled was white with right side still showing this defect.
                        right side pulled was the same as well but opposite.

                        heated up around the main-board and tcon the problem doesn't go away.

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                        • nomoresonys
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 12097
                          • U.S.

                          #13
                          Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                          Check the capacitors on the tcon for shorts, tv unplugged, meter in diode mode.
                          Last edited by nomoresonys; 12-17-2018, 11:11 PM.

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                          • Amraks
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 725
                            • Australia

                            #14
                            Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                            checked all caps for shorts on the tcon board couldn't find any shorted

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                            • Amraks
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 725
                              • Australia

                              #15
                              Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                              I replaced that cap on psu that I didn't have before problem is still there.

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                              • nomoresonys
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 12097
                                • U.S.

                                #16
                                Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                                Maybe test the voltage regulators on mainboard, tutorial if needed in budm's signature post #9.
                                Last edited by nomoresonys; 12-18-2018, 08:02 AM.

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                                • Dannyx
                                  CertifiedAxhole
                                  • Aug 2016
                                  • 3912
                                  • Romania

                                  #17
                                  Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                                  I believe you removed the video.

                                  I'm just going to give my 2 cents nonetheless by saying it's probably a T-con issue since you're saying both sides of the screen display the same. Ideally, you'd have a second main board/T-con to compare how each performs.

                                  Do some measurements on the t-con board: there should be test points labeled VCC, 1.2v, VGH, VGL, etc. Really curious to see how this telly gets fixed
                                  Wattevah...

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                                  • Amraks
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Nov 2011
                                    • 725
                                    • Australia

                                    #18
                                    Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                                    Here is a photo of the tcon all the VCC lines seem to match their values I can't find vgh or vgl
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • budm
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2010
                                      • 40746
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                                      How about AVDD, AVDD_1, VDD around the left side of the board around IC8?
                                      You can also look up the spec sheet of that IC8 TPS65160A to see how many output Voltage sources it has.
                                      Never stop learning
                                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                      • Amraks
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Nov 2011
                                        • 725
                                        • Australia

                                        #20
                                        Re: Sasmung la40m81bd - Recapped

                                        Some more photos
                                        Attached Files

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