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  • maxvalutech
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Dec 2014
    • 804
    • australia

    #1

    LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

    This set starts normally and displays a very good evenly lit picture for 8/10 minutes then LEDs turn off. Turn off set to standby then immediate restart and picture displays again for 3/4 minutes. Watching very closely there is a blink every now and then, very quick, as if LEDs turning off but don't. All voltages on main connector read as per legend when set is going right but also when LEDs go off. The 16 circular test points read 12.5 to 14.3v when set on with no signal, but with a DVD playing they can measure down to half of that - strange? When LEDs off their readings are nominal. The 2 feeds to LEDs show each end pin 57.7v when on with middle pins 13/14v range as for test points. When LEDs are off the end pins drop to around 36v and others are nominal. Because all LEDs are either on or off I'm hoping the problem lies with the power board. TV is edge lit and my experience with LEDs is minimal. Help appreciated.
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    Last edited by maxvalutech; 10-17-2018, 03:39 AM.
  • Andrew F. Ali
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2014
    • 2450
    • Trinidad & Tobago

    #2
    Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

    This appears like a typical LG Backlights issue.

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #3
      Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

      Try turning down the backlights as low as possible on ALL inputs to see if the backlights will stay on longer.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • maxvalutech
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Dec 2014
        • 804
        • australia

        #4
        Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

        Spot on budm. Have only had one of these LGs before and that had a tuner problem - what a disaster of a menu for settings, the "kiss" model completely overlooked. I don't have a remote with this set so using the touch lights makes for some difficulty but found the picture mode in settings and selected standard for all inputs - this resulted in a much more dimmed picture with backlights at 70℅ but they then stayed on until I turned the set off an hour later. Seems the people who had it were running picture all the way up in brightness etc. It'll be a cheap set for the $10 that I got it for if this simple adjustment works. I do have an LG remote at our main home but forgot to bring it with me (old age!) and we're now 900km away in western NSW.

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        • maxvalutech
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Dec 2014
          • 804
          • australia

          #5
          Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

          Still mucking around with this set but only input I have available in work shed is a DVD via AV. Decided to do a factory reset to see what the settings were then. However started the DVD and let it run for two hours all OK. When I went to get into menu I must have activated input as I saw HDMI 3 on screen just as backlights went off. I also note the temperature has some effect on backlights as in the colder early morning air I could have the screen on for 7/10 mins before it went off - plenty of time for adjustments but this afternoon at 32°C the lights go off almost immediately. Have a remote control coming so that should help make adjustments quicker and easier. Main set in house does have satellite TV with HDMI so will be able to try that input at a setting of 70 for the lights in due course.

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          • maxvalutech
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Dec 2014
            • 804
            • australia

            #6
            Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

            Well I'm back in our main house and able to check this set out properly with dtv signal etc. The led problem was definitely affected by temperature in my opinion and as luck would have it I found in my board stash the same power board which only needed a main fuse replaced. This board has no darkening in the led power output area. Fitted it and set has been running OK for a couple of hours - do have led setting at a low 35 . Now for further testing but I'm hopeful it was a board ic problem rather than LEDs themselves.

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            • maxvalutech
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Dec 2014
              • 804
              • australia

              #7
              Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

              With the set seemingly going OK I turned the backlight setting up to 50 and then noticed a few gray areas around the screen edges. These are shown in pic below. So either some LEDs low in output or not working - don't know the circuit setup for these.
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              • Andrew F. Ali
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2014
                • 2450
                • Trinidad & Tobago

                #8
                Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

                I think this is an Edge-Lit backlight set up. Since turning down the Backlight setting produces this effect I think you may have some dimly lit LEDs. Only long term solution is to crack open the Panel and replace the LED strip.

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                • maxvalutech
                  Badcaps Veteran
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 804
                  • australia

                  #9
                  Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

                  Thanks Andrew F. Getting too old and cantankerous to go far with this set but something a bit strange as well. Turned set on this morning and no sign of side lights problem although top edge definitely dull and moreso top right side. It occurs to me that I hadn't noticed the unevenness before but then I had only ran the set for shortish times and at low backlight settings. When I first noticed the problem the set had been going for around 4/5 hours at 50 setting. Today been going now for 1 hour at 60 setting when attached pic taken. I'm starting to wonder about mura now as well as other reasons.
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                  • maxvalutech
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 804
                    • australia

                    #10
                    Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

                    Just adding that power board I put in although same eax number did come from a 42" set. For both boards have found with set going OK but with backlights turned up to around 60 when activating menu that causes backlights to immediately turn off ! Why ??

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                    • maxvalutech
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 804
                      • australia

                      #11
                      Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

                      Very evident now that with lowish LED setting (45 in pic) the display is acceptable and unblemished at switch on, however shortly afterwards the greyish cloud shows across top of screen and slowly extends down about 4/5 inches. The darkening from the sides happens much later. To me as the edge lighting is from the sides it seems a combination of mura effect and some LEDs later dimming possibly due temperature may be at play. Monitoring holes on rear of set though I cannot see any dimming of brightness in them??. Anyone care to comment??
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                      • nomoresonys
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 12097
                        • U.S.

                        #12
                        Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

                        Seems like if you have same problem with either power board installed, looks like weak or faulty leds, if the voltage going to the leds is correct and steady that is.
                        Last edited by nomoresonys; 11-18-2018, 02:13 PM.

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                        • Andrew F. Ali
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 2450
                          • Trinidad & Tobago

                          #13
                          Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

                          No getting away from it. You have to replace the bad backlights if you really want to get this dolly going again.

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: LG 47LW6500 LED intermittent

                            Originally posted by andrew f. Ali
                            no getting away from it. You have to replace the bad backlights if you really want to get this dolly going again.
                            +1
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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