VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

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  • triplefour
    Badcaps Legend
    • May 2014
    • 1747
    • USA

    #1

    VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

    after reading some of the other posts, im a little wary of putting money into this tv only to find it also has mainboard issues (which seem real common)
    i have a less common problem, where the PSU is not producing enough voltage.

    when i first got the tv, it shows the amber light when plugged in, which changes to white when the power button is pushed. then it cycles back and forth between amber and white about 30 times before finally staying solid white for about 5 seconds then back to solid amber.

    i took the back off, and disconnected the psu from any other boards, and tricked the pwr-on signal to turn on the board.
    the 5vsb is fine at a solid 5v but the 12v is wavering between 9.8v and 10v
    and the 18v is waving around 14.8v~15.2v
    if i also trick the backlight_on pin, i see the psu going into a resetting condition where the 12v line starts at about 4.5v then falls over 5 seconds or so to 2v, then resets back to 5v
    the 18v also does this but from 5v down to 0 and back again
    the LEDV+ seems ignorant of this resetting the rest of the psu is doing. it starts at 8v and slowly creeps down to 0v over many many resets.
    i actually never watched it go all the way down to 0 cause it takes forever, but thats where its going.

    PFC seems fine. 168v when in standby and 400v when turned on.

    i can find the PSU on ebay for 60$ and i would be happy to spend 60$ for this tv as it is pretty nice with the 240hz refresh rate and all, but having no idea what else might be wrong has got me thinking twice.
    would be nice if i could actually repair a PSU for once!
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    Last edited by triplefour; 03-31-2018, 06:32 PM.
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  • Agent24
    I see dead caps
    • Oct 2007
    • 4922
    • New Zealand

    #2
    Re: VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

    5vSB is generated from a separate circuit and it's probably fine.

    Sounds like the main PSU is having a problem. Could be bad capacitor, a leaky rectifier diode, maybe faulty PWM controller.

    What voltages do you get if you plug the boards in, and power on with the power button?
    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
    -David VanHorn

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    • CapLeaker
      Leaking Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 8005
      • Canada

      #3
      Re: VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

      first i'd be disconnecting the main board from the psu and force the psu on by itself with the back lights connected. To do that, take a 1k ohm resistor from stby voltage to PSon and another resistor from stby voltage to BLon. Then measure all the voltage rails again. Unless this is one of these Vizio's that generates the stby on the main board.
      Last edited by CapLeaker; 03-31-2018, 06:45 PM.

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      • triplefour
        Badcaps Legend
        • May 2014
        • 1747
        • USA

        #4
        Re: VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

        capleaker, i hadnt wanted to do that because i was seeing low voltages and worried what would happen if i tried to drive the LED's with insufficient voltage but i decided what the heck and left the driver board connected as you said and tricked the BL_ON and PSU_ON pins (and mb disconnected) and voila, the psu is producing correct voltage on the 12v and 18v rail, it is outputting 14.3v on all the VLED (6 of them) to the driver board, and all the backlights are coming on, and i can see the screen is in good shape, not cracked. and the Blue LED on the driver board is blinking on and off, infinitely.. is that blue LED on the driver board supposed to do that in normal operation?
        strange, i guess this PSU wont make with the correct voltages unless the load is connected?
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        • triplefour
          Badcaps Legend
          • May 2014
          • 1747
          • USA

          #5
          Re: VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

          agent24, if i leave all board connected normally with no tricks, and take measurements during while its going amber-white-amber-white, i see only the 5vsb. very low voltage on the 12v and 18v. something like .05~.09

          this PSU is proving that not all PSU are the same, so i shouldnt expect anything anymore! i think i have a good PSU but a bad MB that just isnt properly turning the PSU on as it should when pressing power...

          which falls more in line with everyone else saying the mb goes bad in multiple ways on these things. is there any hope?

          not a bad price for this board actually, considering everyone else is asking around 100, even for the repair services
          https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vizio-47-XV...X8H8a#viTabs_0
          er...ahhh... but its showing a picture of the TCON not MAINBOARD! ???


          are there any other TV's that have a compatible Main board?
          Last edited by triplefour; 03-31-2018, 08:36 PM.
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          • Agent24
            I see dead caps
            • Oct 2007
            • 4922
            • New Zealand

            #6
            Re: VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

            Sounds like the mainboard may not be sending the PS_ON signal to the PSU, then, when you press the power button?

            Your low rails when everything is disconnected might be the PSU not liking having no load.
            "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
            -David VanHorn

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            • triplefour
              Badcaps Legend
              • May 2014
              • 1747
              • USA

              #7
              Re: VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

              yes the mainboard never sends even the slightest PSON signal when pwr button is pressed...
              and yes at least for this psu, no LED LOAD = incorrect voltages
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              • Agent24
                I see dead caps
                • Oct 2007
                • 4922
                • New Zealand

                #8
                Re: VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

                You need to trace/look at the PSON generation circuitry on the mainboard to find out where the signal is missing. Either there is a fault there, or the CPU is not outputting the signal to begin with.

                If the CPU is not outputting the PSON signal, likely causes are bad EPROM, bad power regulator on mainboard, bad crystal, bad buttons/IR receiver, bad BGA soldering, some shorted part.
                "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                -David VanHorn

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                • triplefour
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • May 2014
                  • 1747
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

                  lotsa bad reviews on this tv....its a nice tv but it breaks a lot
                  https://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-XVT473S...R3210B8FO7CNNT
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                  • nomoresonys
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 12086
                    • U.S.

                    #10
                    Re: VIZIO XVT473SV has PSU Problem. only 10v on 12v rail.

                    https://www.bonanza.com/listings/Viz...CABEgIbx_D_BwE

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