Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Dannyx
    CertifiedAxhole
    • Aug 2016
    • 3912
    • Romania

    #1

    Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

    Good day folks. I'm having a bit of trouble with a Sammy TV here and it's not the first time it happens sadly: it's got a white, washed out picture. My first guess was obviously a faulty AS15F gamma IC, but upon removing the t-con board, I noticed it doesn't use an AS15f, instead a RM5010, which is supposedly equivalent nevertheless. Not wanting to risk replacing it with an AS15 which I have plenty on hand, I actually dished out and bought the exact part and replaced it, but unfortunately it didn't fix the issue, it looks exactly the same.

    I thought perhaps my buddy damaged it by blasting it with too much heat like he tends to do (he always keeps his hot air gun turned all the way up to 450c, regardless of what he's soldering and despite me protesting...NVM...) so I tried an AS15f in its place and although it had no funny side effects (which would confirm it's indeed compatible), it still had the same white picture, so the issue is definitely someplace else, perhaps even somewhere other than the t-con. The second time, I was very careful to heat the part as little as possible and I doubt they're THAT sensitive to begin with. Also, the chances of getting TWO faulty parts of TWO different kinds in a row are virtually non-existent IMO.

    I know with such issues it's imperative to measure the V_Gamma voltages on those test points, but I haven't done that yet due to lack of time - I shall do it post-haste though. It's important to note that the guy who brought it in said it happened after "the TV reset" and I put that in quotes because those are his exact words with no additional details as to what qualifies as a "reset" to him...did he actually access the service menu and messed around with those settings or simply unplugging the set counts as "resetting" it ? Who knows....can anything in the service menu cause such behavior ? I doubt it - if anything, to my recollection, changing the panel type would result in a dead set with no picture at all, but not this. My next guess is the panel itself. It's such a common board too and everybody seems to fix them by replacing the gamma IC, but to me this isn't the first time a gamma IC doesn't fix such issue....so goddamn annoying

    Another frustrating thing, though this is backstory, is that I had an identical T-con board around the shop, but I sold it just a few days before the chap brought the TV in, so I could've at least checked if it experiences the same issue with a known functional board...
    Attached Files
    Wattevah...
  • dskall
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2016
    • 2905
    • usa

    #2
    Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

    I would check t-con voltages
    I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

    Comment

    • attainteddragon
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Apr 2013
      • 764
      • australia

      #3
      Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

      i had a similar issue once, and it turned out to be water damage on the panel driver board.

      disconnect one ribbon cable (from the t-con to panel) at a time and see if you get half a good pic.
      WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

      Comment

      • Dannyx
        CertifiedAxhole
        • Aug 2016
        • 3912
        • Romania

        #4
        Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

        Well guys, I'll be honest, I cannot find all of the test points on this board. They're not laid out around the gamma IC like on other t-con boards. They're all over the place and I had a hard time following them in order and some numbers I couldn't find at all, but measuring the ones I COULD find, the voltages seem fine - there isn't a massive difference between two neighboring points, like 15 and 16 or 1 and 2....true, you can't really make assumptions until you've properly measured ALL of them.

        About the test the last guy suggested, which is to try disconnecting the buffers one at a time: the picture stays white on both halves, therefore I do believe the T-con is faulty one way or another.
        Wattevah...

        Comment

        • dskall
          Badcaps Legend
          • Oct 2016
          • 2905
          • usa

          #5
          Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

          I would check operating voltages on t-con
          I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

          Comment

          • Dannyx
            CertifiedAxhole
            • Aug 2016
            • 3912
            • Romania

            #6
            Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

            12v, 3.3v and 1v buses all appear to be correct....12v is slightly high for my taste (12.88), but I doubt it's THAT badly out of spec.
            Wattevah...

            Comment

            • Davi.p
              Hobbist Tech
              • Sep 2009
              • 4352
              • Italy - Milan

              #7
              Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

              Ususally in the Sams. service menus there is a setting "Gamma", can you try to play with it or at least make a s.m. reset?

              Comment

              • Dannyx
                CertifiedAxhole
                • Aug 2016
                • 3912
                • Romania

                #8
                Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                Originally posted by Davi.p
                Ususally in the Sams. service menus there is a setting "Gamma", can you try to play with it or at least make a s.m. reset?
                I shall try and have a look around, though I'm a bit reluctant since I don't want to mess it up more than it already is and just end up with a blank screen
                Wattevah...

                Comment

                • Davi.p
                  Hobbist Tech
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4352
                  • Italy - Milan

                  #9
                  Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                  I think you can change tha gamma value and have realtime output of the change, i've done it on a Samsung with bad panel, unfrotunately i have noticed no changes.. (defect was different)

                  Comment

                  • Dannyx
                    CertifiedAxhole
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 3912
                    • Romania

                    #10
                    Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                    A factory reset did not solve it....messed around with that gamma setting, but didn't notice anything. I STILL think the t-con is dead somehow.
                    Wattevah...

                    Comment

                    • attainteddragon
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 764
                      • australia

                      #11
                      Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                      i'll drop a vote in on t-con, but i don't know what can cause it outside of the as15 chip.
                      WHY CAN'T PHILIPS USE PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS?

                      Comment

                      • Davi.p
                        Hobbist Tech
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 4352
                        • Italy - Milan

                        #12
                        Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                        The gamma chip makes reference voltages starting from AVDD tension, it has to be 15-16v, try to test that... search for AVDD testpoint or search the output of the dc-dc converter boost, the only one, at the cathode of a big diode whose anode is connected to mosfet drain and big inductance..

                        edit: ah yes there's a photo, is in the upper left corner..
                        Last edited by Davi.p; 09-27-2017, 04:59 AM.

                        Comment

                        • Dannyx
                          CertifiedAxhole
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 3912
                          • Romania

                          #13
                          Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                          I no longer have access to the board, since I closed the TV back up for returning....maybe, just maybe I'll take it apart once more to try and persevere. I called the guy today and managed to stall for time just a little longer
                          Wattevah...

                          Comment

                          • noledud
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 413
                            • united kingdom

                            #14
                            Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                            Id be checking the pads around the AS15 to see if they were damaged at all

                            Comment

                            • ducky29
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 370
                              • Europe

                              #15
                              Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                              I think that the model number of the Tcon does not match the model of the TV. Was the tv repaired before you got your hands in it?

                              Comment

                              • Dannyx
                                CertifiedAxhole
                                • Aug 2016
                                • 3912
                                • Romania

                                #16
                                Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                                Originally posted by ducky29
                                I think that the model number of the Tcon does not match the model of the TV. Was the tv repaired before you got your hands in it?
                                No, the TV hadn't been serviced before, or at least the chap didn't say so, plus I doubt someone could just put in a non-compatible t-con and just gave it to him like that. I also doubt t-con board like these have compatibility issues. I DID have one incompatible t-con board, but it was for a smart TV which had a flash SPI chip on the t-con itself, whereas these ones are "dumb" - no data is stored on them or at least that's what I think.
                                Wattevah...

                                Comment

                                • ducky29
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Dec 2015
                                  • 370
                                  • Europe

                                  #17
                                  Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                                  Originally posted by Dannyx
                                  No, the TV hadn't been serviced before, or at least the chap didn't say so, plus I doubt someone could just put in a non-compatible t-con and just gave it to him like that. I also doubt t-con board like these have compatibility issues. I DID have one incompatible t-con board, but it was for a smart TV which had a flash SPI chip on the t-con itself, whereas these ones are "dumb" - no data is stored on them or at least that's what I think.
                                  I have had this issue a couple times thats why I asked. What is the panel number?

                                  Comment

                                  • Dannyx
                                    CertifiedAxhole
                                    • Aug 2016
                                    • 3912
                                    • Romania

                                    #18
                                    Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                                    Originally posted by ducky29
                                    I have had this issue a couple times thats why I asked. What is the panel number?
                                    No idea, TBH - I returned it some time ago, but the discussion is still on
                                    Wattevah...

                                    Comment

                                    • koka0011
                                      Member
                                      • Apr 2013
                                      • 30
                                      • Sri Lanka

                                      #19
                                      Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                                      check and note down all the gamma voltages.

                                      Comment

                                      • chrismurphy
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • May 2014
                                        • 251
                                        • australia

                                        #20
                                        Re: Help with Samsung LE32B554M2W with white picture

                                        Replace the T-con board dont mess with replacing the chip , i have done this myself but the tracks are very small and it too easy to damage or short tracks
                                        Just replace the board

                                        Comment

                                        Related Topics

                                        Collapse

                                        • Document Archive
                                          Samsung Galaxy Book 2 Notebook Specification for Upgrade or Repair
                                          by Document Archive
                                          This specification for the Samsung Galaxy Book 2 Notebook can be useful for upgrading or repairing a laptop that is not working. As a community we are working through our specifications to add valuable data like the Galaxy Book 2 boardview and Galaxy Book 2 schematic. Our users have donated over 1 million documents which are being added to the site. This page will be updated soon with additional information. Alternatively you can request additional help from our users directly on the relevant badcaps forum. Please note that we offer no warranties that any specification, datasheet, or download...
                                          09-07-2024, 05:50 AM
                                        • TR103
                                          Samsung TV model UE50TU: rebooting, backlight, sound, but no picture
                                          by TR103
                                          Hi, I have a Samsung UE50TU with:
                                          - sound and backlight, but no picture
                                          - when it arrived, it had a picture for a few seconds
                                          - it keeps rebooting
                                          - without ribbon cable between the two panel boards, it does not reboot but I have no picture
                                          - without cable between mainboard and lcd panel, it does not reboot (but obviously i have no picture)
                                          - when i try a tape fix, its keeps rebooting, unless I tape off pin 1 (the innermost pin). In that case it does not reboot but I have no picture.

                                          - without cable between mainboard and lcd panel and with a jumpered...
                                          01-22-2025, 04:12 PM
                                        • JJAAMM
                                          SAMSUNG UN55KS9000F picture fades then distorts into vertical lines after 20 seconds
                                          by JJAAMM
                                          This was my main TV for the last 6 years. I'm not inclined to throw out a $2600 TV so quickly so I'm trying to investigate the issue.

                                          Problem
                                          TV was disconnected from power for 6 months during construction. When I plugged it yesterday picture was fine, after 30 seconds it dimmed then started developing horizontal lines, picture then starts to ghost vertically until it degrades into vertical streaks. TV always displays a perfect picture when cold. I can unplug TV for 5 minutes and plug it back in and picture is restored for 20 seconds. I can also keep it in standby mode...
                                          07-06-2023, 06:01 AM
                                        • Mgiffune
                                          Samsung UN60EH6000F Black Screen, Backlight and Sound Good. Power Cycle Returns Picture
                                          by Mgiffune
                                          I have a 60 inch Samsung UN60EH6000F flatscreen TV. The screen went black a few months ago Sound is good, backlight is good, no menu. I replaced the TCon board with a used board purchased from Ebay. It worked fine for a 3-4 months, then the screen started ‘fading' back. Once again, sound is good, backlight is good, no menu. However, this time the picture looks fine for about 10-15 minutes, then fades back. If I power cycle the TV, the display reappears, for another 10-15 minutes, then fades black again. Repeatable ever time.

                                          I ordered a supposedly ‘new' Tcon board this time, and
                                          ...
                                          06-09-2024, 10:28 AM
                                        • Dodgethis
                                          Samsung QN75Q6DRA, No Picture, Has BL, and Sound
                                          by Dodgethis
                                          Hello all,

                                          This is my first post, but long term lurker on the form learning as much as possible about these TV's. I was given this TV as due to a power outage of constant On/off of power to TV. The TV originally would just click on and off (Typical Reboot Cycle). I opened the back of the TV, and troubleshooted by taking the 96 pin LVDS off one at a time to see if I had a picture on either side. I finally fixed the reboot cycle by finding the error on the left side of the screen off connector CN 1301, and the TV would stay on. Further troubleshooting led me to the driver boards where...
                                          09-11-2024, 07:39 AM
                                        • Loading...
                                        • No more items.
                                        Working...