LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #21
    Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

    BTW, I cannot read the PCBA P/N as printed on the barcode sticker to look for more info about the board.
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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #22
      Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

      Are these P/N printed on your board?
      Is this the EXACT matched of your board?
      LG EAY62169801 (EAX62865401/8)

      Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
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      Last edited by budm; 11-28-2016, 01:09 PM.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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      • UndeadLuke
        Member
        • Nov 2016
        • 25
        • Czech Republic

        #23
        Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

        Originally posted by budm
        Are these P/N printed on your board?
        Is this the EXACT matched of your board?
        LG EAY62169801 (EAX62865401/8)

        Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
        Yes

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        • UndeadLuke
          Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 25
          • Czech Republic

          #24
          Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

          Originally posted by budm
          Are these P/N printed on your board?
          Is this the EXACT matched of your board?
          LG EAY62169801 (EAX62865401/8)

          Pictures provided by shopjimmy.
          Yes

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          • UndeadLuke
            Member
            • Nov 2016
            • 25
            • Czech Republic

            #25
            Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

            The black thing right to geay capacitor on main is what because it got damaged and no fuse after this part

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

              OK, so far you do have standby Voltage otherwise based on Post #1 "Hi guys today my TV stops working (it woudnt turn on only led shine so the power goes into it)"
              Looking the board layout, you will not have any DCV between the two legs on any of the filter caps C612~C614 until you have > 2VDC at the 'PWR-ON' pin of the connector P201 to turn on the power relay RL101 to supply the 230VAC to the bridge rectifier BD101.
              So check and see if you have DCV at 'PWR-ON' pin or not when the power switch is activated.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                Originally posted by UndeadLuke
                The black thing right to geay capacitor on main is what because it got damaged and no fuse after this part
                That is MOV VA101 and it does not look like it is damaged, if it has been activated it would have blown the main AC fuse.

                NTC TH501 is for the inrush current limiter for the STANDBY power supply section.
                NTC TH101 is for the inrush current limiter for the MAIN power supply section.
                Last edited by budm; 11-28-2016, 01:59 PM.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • syaoran123
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 178
                  • Australia

                  #28
                  Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                  How do you know the power supply is faulty? I would test the fuses first to see if theyre ok.

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                  • UndeadLuke
                    Member
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 25
                    • Czech Republic

                    #29
                    Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                    Originally posted by syaoran123
                    How do you know the power supply is faulty? I would test the fuses first to see if theyre ok.
                    Its faulty .. I checked all fuses and they are OK .. all of them

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                    • UndeadLuke
                      Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 25
                      • Czech Republic

                      #30
                      Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                      Originally posted by budm
                      That is MOV VA101 and it does not look like it is damaged, if it has been activated it would have blown the main AC fuse.

                      NTC TH501 is for the inrush current limiter for the STANDBY power supply section.
                      NTC TH101 is for the inrush current limiter for the MAIN power supply section.
                      All fuses are Okey main AC fuse is before this little b*tch I want to know what is it and what i can replace it iam agry of it as I sed I had no voltage after the part I will mark it on anotherpost I cant get no voltage on the relay so relay cant switch the voltage to diodes when you press power button it will imidietly turn off TV so i cant turn it on i think the marked part is definetly bad please tell me what it is and what can i replace with it :/

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                      • UndeadLuke
                        Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 25
                        • Czech Republic

                        #31
                        Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                        the red marked one
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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #32
                          Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                          I do not understand which part is bad TH501, TH101?
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                            Originally posted by UndeadLuke
                            the red marked one
                            That is MOV and it is NOT BAD, if it is activated the main fuse would have blown, it is for surge protection and it is not needed for the TV to function.
                            You should be able to read 230VAC between the two legs of that MOV because it is basically connected in parallel with that grey line filter cap which are connected between Line and Neutral.
                            You are looking at the wrong section.
                            There is NOTHING WRONG with that MOV!
                            http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...IfAz8bpg%3D%3D
                            Last edited by budm; 11-28-2016, 03:27 PM.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #34
                              Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                              Read post 26 again and report the reading.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • syaoran123
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 178
                                • Australia

                                #35
                                Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                                Originally posted by UndeadLuke
                                Its faulty .. I checked all fuses and they are OK .. all of them
                                I am not convinced unless you support your claim. Do you even know how to test a fuse? Have you tried heating the mainboard with a hair-dryer?

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                                • budm
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2010
                                  • 40746
                                  • USA

                                  #36
                                  Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                                  Originally posted by UndeadLuke
                                  All fuses are Okey main AC fuse is before this little b*tch I want to know what is it and what i can replace it iam agry of it as I sed I had no voltage after the part I will mark it on anotherpost I cant get no voltage on the relay so relay cant switch the voltage to diodes when you press power button it will imidietly turn off TV so i cant turn it on i think the marked part is definetly bad please tell me what it is and what can i replace with it :/
                                  The main board has to send the PWR-ON to turn on the relay, no command signal = no relay action.
                                  You have to follow the instruction.
                                  Never stop learning
                                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                  • UndeadLuke
                                    Member
                                    • Nov 2016
                                    • 25
                                    • Czech Republic

                                    #37
                                    Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                                    Originally posted by syaoran123
                                    I am not convinced unless you support your claim. Do you even know how to test a fuse? Have you tried heating the mainboard with a hair-dryer?
                                    I know how test fuse .. if beeps its good ... i tryed it and all of them are Ok heating ? man this is not bad chip

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                                    • UndeadLuke
                                      Member
                                      • Nov 2016
                                      • 25
                                      • Czech Republic

                                      #38
                                      Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                                      Originally posted by budm
                                      The main board has to send the PWR-ON to turn on the relay, no command signal = no relay action.
                                      You have to follow the instruction.
                                      I really dont understand you opinions because why I dont have no power on main power circuit ? I think the relay turns on when I press power button but i dont have any power on my primary circuit market like 1 on board. also no power after this red market part so firt gray cap is with power but the second one is without because it looks like the part got damaged like when you damaged fuse . its surge protection i know but when surge protection fails like fuse and got damaged you will have no power after it ? Isnt that true ? and yes I will follow the instructions .

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                                      • UndeadLuke
                                        Member
                                        • Nov 2016
                                        • 25
                                        • Czech Republic

                                        #39
                                        Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                                        Originally posted by budm
                                        OK, so far you do have standby Voltage otherwise based on Post #1 "Hi guys today my TV stops working (it woudnt turn on only led shine so the power goes into it)"
                                        Looking the board layout, you will not have any DCV between the two legs on any of the filter caps C612~C614 until you have > 2VDC at the 'PWR-ON' pin of the connector P201 to turn on the power relay RL101 to supply the 230VAC to the bridge rectifier BD101.
                                        So check and see if you have DCV at 'PWR-ON' pin or not when the power switch is activated.
                                        Where I can found the power switch ? It will be good if you have some scheme for this board .

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: LG 42LW4500-LB Need help with repair of PSU

                                          Originally posted by UndeadLuke
                                          I really dont understand you opinions because why I dont have no power on main power circuit ? I think the relay turns on when I press power button but i dont have any power on my primary circuit market like 1 on board. also no power after this red market part so firt gray cap is with power but the second one is without because it looks like the part got damaged like when you damaged fuse . its surge protection i know but when surge protection fails like fuse and got damaged you will have no power after it ? Isnt that true ? and yes I will follow the instructions .
                                          The MOV is connected across the power line after the fuse, it will heavily conduct and causes the main AC fuse to blow, like I said it is not need to for the TV to function! You can even remove it! you just will not have surge protection. It is not connected in SERIES like a fuse, it is connected in parallel with incoming AC.
                                          Look up and learn what the MOV is for and how it is used then you will understand.

                                          You think the relay is turned on, how did you figure that out? it has DCV on the relay coil when the power switch is activated and the Voltage is there and did not drop out.
                                          Did you even verify that you do have DCV at the PWR-ON pin as I asked.
                                          It sounds like you are skipping in learning the basic as to how the component functions.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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