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  • john_doe
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 192
    • Malaysia

    #21
    Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

    I have removed ICP801S and the pin 6 and 7 are not shorted.

    But when I checked the locations on the board where pin 6 and 7 were, there is a short. Does this mean ICP801S is good?

    Do I need to check DZP801 out of circuit?

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    • john_doe
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 192
      • Malaysia

      #22
      Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

      I lifted DZP801 pin 3 off the board. With the multimeter on diode measurement, the voltage across pin 1 and 3 is 0.687v in 1 direction. The voltage at other direction is OL. DZP801 seems to be working too.

      So what caused the short-circuit and blowing the fuse?

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #23
        Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

        Check the resistance between the Source and Drain pin of the PFC Power MOSFET QP801S to see what you get.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • john_doe
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 192
          • Malaysia

          #24
          Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

          The resistance between the Source and Drain pin of the PFC Power MOSFET QP801S is 0 ohm.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #25
            Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

            Well, it is either the MOSFET or the snubber cap CP802 is shorted out (it is connected in parallel with the Source and Drain pin of the QP801S.
            So would lift one leg of cap CP802 off the board to see if the shorts is still present between the S and D of the MOSFET or not, if it is still showing as shorts, then remove the MOSFET and then test it off the board. See diagram for details.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • john_doe
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 192
              • Malaysia

              #26
              Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

              I removed QP801S and tested it. Yes it is shorted.

              Will order new MOSFET and test again.

              Thanks budm, dick_barton and vinceroger69!

              Will be back when the new MOSFET arrived.

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                The PFC IC may be bad or damaged, I would replace the IC at the same time otherwise you may damage your new MOSFET.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • john_doe
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 192
                  • Malaysia

                  #28
                  Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                  Hi budm,

                  Is the PFC IC ICP801S?

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #29
                    Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                    Yes, the 'P' in the IC designator: ICPXXX the 'P' = PFC circuit section.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • john_doe
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 192
                      • Malaysia

                      #30
                      Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                      I have replaced the mosfet and PFC IC. Is there any final check before I power up?l

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                      • vinceroger69
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 6714
                        • uk

                        #31
                        Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                        maybe build yourself a dim bulb tester this may save your new parts from blowing again.
                        I have enclosed a picture of a basic dim bulb tester circuit.
                        Attached Files

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                        • john_doe
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 192
                          • Malaysia

                          #32
                          Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                          What wattage should I use for the bulb?

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                          • vinceroger69
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 6714
                            • uk

                            #33
                            Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                            i usually use either a 60 watt or a 100 watt.

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                            • john_doe
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 192
                              • Malaysia

                              #34
                              Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                              I connected the TV to a dim bulb tester of 60 watt and disconnected to the main board.

                              The bulb lighted up with about half brightness. There is 5.2 vdc standby and all other pins at CNM801 are 0 vdc or almost 0 vdc. It seems to be the same when I first started out.

                              The voltage at the big filter cap is 323 vdc.

                              Any suggestions?

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                              • john_doe
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 192
                                • Malaysia

                                #35
                                Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                                When i connect a 1k resistor from PS_ON to standby, the bulb lighted up very brightly.

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                                • Packard93
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Jul 2016
                                  • 81
                                  • United States

                                  #36
                                  Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                                  if u jump 5vsb with pson other voltages should be active if not power supply issue.

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                                  • Packard93
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Jul 2016
                                    • 81
                                    • United States

                                    #37
                                    Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                                    Use a multimeter not a bulb . Make sure u set to cold or hot depending on side your testing on inverter . Cold will be dc and hot side will be ac . Read your board should be on there .

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                                    • Packard93
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jul 2016
                                      • 81
                                      • United States

                                      #38
                                      Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                                      You dont find voltage have u checked for fuses.

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                                      • Packard93
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jul 2016
                                        • 81
                                        • United States

                                        #39
                                        Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                                        You can blow things up if ur bulb uses to much current.

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                                        • dick_barton
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Aug 2015
                                          • 6643
                                          • Wales

                                          #40
                                          Re: Samsung LA26R71BA cannot power up

                                          If the bulb light more brightly when you connected PS_ON then I would say that your PFC circuit is now working.
                                          Check the voltage again. Without PS_ON voltage at large capacitor = 323V and with PS_Connected voltage at large capacitor = ???
                                          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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