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  • Cipher108
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    • Jul 2016
    • 15
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    #1

    60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

    I have an LG 60PA5500-UG with no picture, and no sound (most of the time, I'll explain).

    I've removed the back cover, and checked the three fuses in the power supply. I've also visually inspected for blown caps, but don't see any.

    In line with other advice here, I've powered the unit down and restarted with only the zsus disconnected, then again with only the ysus disconnected. No change in state fit either.

    Before the unit died (I think it's dead) the USB ports failed one by one. I'm down to one working (if I can ever make the tv work again). I'm thinking this is a problem with the input board. When it's plugged in, a single red led lights up on the board marked LD500 C500. Is this an error code?

    Same said for powering up. It clicks on right after I apply power, and the red stand by light next to the power button comes on. However, if I press the power button, there is no click, the red standby light blinks twice, and nothing else happens. Repeated pushing of the power button does nothing.

    Where do I go next?
  • Moreno83
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jun 2014
    • 2008
    • The Netherlands

    #2
    Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

    You need to measure the voltages going to the mainboard. Just looking at your thread i will say the mainboard is getting the standby voltage but does not turn on the tv.
    I only repair Panasonic plasma tv's! Currently owning a TX-P55VT50 and still searching for a ZT60!

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    • Cipher108
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      • Jul 2016
      • 15
      • United States

      #3
      Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

      Attached pictures of the input board.

      Oh, and about the sound: I did get it to give me some static, but no picture, only once. I think it's stuck on an input with nothing coming in. But I can't change the input to test again because I can't see the screen...
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      • Cipher108
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        • Jul 2016
        • 15
        • United States

        #4
        Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

        Thanks Moreno! When you say "the main board" Is that what I'm calling the "input board"?
        Last edited by Cipher108; 07-21-2016, 04:15 PM.

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        • CapLeaker
          Leaking Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 8158
          • Canada

          #5
          Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

          Originally posted by Cipher108
          Thanks Moreno! When you say "the main board" I'd that what I'm calling the "input board"?
          Like in your post #3 first picture. That's the main board.

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          • ReeceyBurger123
            Never Give Up !
            • May 2014
            • 7325
            • Britain

            #6
            Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

            Probably Bga solder under the main Cpu which is mounted under the heatsink on the Mb. Maybe reflow it see if it sorts it ?
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            • Cipher108
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              • Jul 2016
              • 15
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              #7
              Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

              Update, I now have sound but no picture. I tried measuring the input voltage to the main board, but my DMM is made for electrical work and not electronics. I sparked it once by touching two pins simultaneously.

              I'm going to take that as it having power...

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              • Cipher108
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                • Jul 2016
                • 15
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                #8
                Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                Thanks Reecey. I read another post that said to remove the main board and "bake it" at 400° for ten minutes to re flow. I did that, but no results.

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                • ReeceyBurger123
                  Never Give Up !
                  • May 2014
                  • 7325
                  • Britain

                  #9
                  Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                  Hmm ok I misread this, have you ran the sets test patterns ?
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                  • Cipher108
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                    • Jul 2016
                    • 15
                    • United States

                    #10
                    Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                    Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
                    Hmm ok I misread this, have you ran the sets test patterns ?
                    Not sure I can with no image.

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                    • dick_barton
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 6642
                      • Wales

                      #11
                      Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                      It bypasses the main board.
                      If you have an image then you most likely have a faulty main board
                      If you dont then you need to investigate further.

                      https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...a+test+pattern


                      Have you measured all the voltages to see if any are missing, IE VA, VS, VZB etc
                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                      • Cipher108
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                        • Jul 2016
                        • 15
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                        There are two rows of pins, and a key coming of the power board (picture attached). The pins are in rows of nine (top and bottom). I disconnected the wiring harness to the main board, and measured the voltages supplied. They are (name, then measurement)

                        1) "17V" measured 17.3V
                        2) "GND" measured 0V (of course)
                        3) "5.1V" measured 5.1V
                        4) "Error Detect" measured 5.1V
                        5) "GND" measured 0V
                        6) "GND" measured 0V
                        7) "Stby" measured 5.1V
                        8) "AC Det" measured 0V
                        9) "Auto gnd" measured 0V

                        Then the bottom set of pins

                        1) "17V" measured 17.3V
                        2) "GND" measured 0V (of course)
                        3) "5.1V" measured 5.1V
                        4) "5.2V" measured 4.8V
                        5) "GND" measured 0V
                        6) "GND" measured 0V
                        7) "Stby" measured 5.1V
                        8) "AC Det" measured 4.8V
                        9) "Auto gnd" measured 3.8V

                        Figuring that "Error Detect" might be an error flag, I unplugged the zsus, and checked again - still 5.1V. Then I reconnected zsus, unplugged ysus, and checked again - it dropped to 0V!

                        Does this mean there's a problem with the ysus?
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                        Last edited by Cipher108; 07-22-2016, 04:52 PM.

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                        • Cipher108
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                          • Jul 2016
                          • 15
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                          #13
                          Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                          Next, I checked the power coming into ysus (again, picture attached). They measured

                          "VS" measured 205V
                          "VA" measured 55V
                          "M5V" measured 5.1V
                          Attached Files

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                          • Hamie
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 1383
                            • UK

                            #14
                            Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                            Run test patterns as previously advised.

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                            • Cipher108
                              Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 15
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                              #15
                              Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                              Originally posted by Hamie
                              Run test patterns as previously advised.
                              I read the post on how to do that. Maybe I'm thick. But it looked like it was for Samsung and Panasonic tv's...

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                              • Hamie
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 1383
                                • UK

                                #16
                                Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                                Upload picture of control board

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                                • Cipher108
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                                  • Jul 2016
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                                  #17
                                  Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                                  Originally posted by Hamie
                                  Upload picture of control board
                                  Picture attached to post 3

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                                  • dick_barton
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Aug 2015
                                    • 6642
                                    • Wales

                                    #18
                                    Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                                    Picture 3 is the main board not the control board



                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ght=tom+plasma
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                                    Last edited by dick_barton; 07-23-2016, 07:00 AM.
                                    Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                    • Cipher108
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                                      • Jul 2016
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                                      #19
                                      Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                                      Thanks guys. I'm trying to keep up with the terminology (and failing). I appreciate your patience.
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                                      Last edited by Cipher108; 07-23-2016, 07:46 AM.

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                                      • dick_barton
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Aug 2015
                                        • 6642
                                        • Wales

                                        #20
                                        Re: 60PA5500 dead as Dillinger - no picture, no sound

                                        Follow the link in post#18 which tells you how to complete this test.
                                        Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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