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  • caphair
    Badcaps Legend
    • Nov 2011
    • 1249

    #1

    Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

    All the voltages are present, standby/5v/12v and 24v for backlights

    Noticed it won't power off once it's turned on. I'm curious if it's a backlights only issue or something with mainboard

    Inverter seems like a pain to get to so don't want to tackle it yet if the issue of it not turning off is something else
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

    Not to be able to turn off the TV with power switch indicates problem on the main board.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

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    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • ReeceyBurger123
      Never Give Up !
      • May 2014
      • 7325
      • Britain

      #3
      Re: Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

      Maxxarcade has a video on the same Tv. Tcon had two shorted ceramic caps casuing the set to lock out. Try unhooking Tcon and see how the Tv behaves.
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      • caphair
        Badcaps Legend
        • Nov 2011
        • 1249

        #4
        Re: Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

        Originally posted by ReeceyBurger123
        Maxxarcade has a video on the same Tv. Tcon had two shorted ceramic caps casuing the set to lock out. Try unhooking Tcon and see how the Tv behaves.
        I actually tried that and same result. Also one time, standby light stayed red but the psu was switched on and all the voltages were available at the rail.

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        • caphair
          Badcaps Legend
          • Nov 2011
          • 1249

          #5
          Re: Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

          Sometimes when its first plugged in the ps_on pin high at 5v but the standby light stays red.

          Note, the 12v rail is 11.7v is that considered low or acceptable?

          There's also an adjustable voltage regulator on the mainboard with an input of 3.3v and an output of 1.3v. That 1.3v seems odd to me. Not sure if it's supposed to be 1.5v maybe

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

            'Note, the 12v rail is 11.7v is that considered low or acceptable?' That is fine, it is not tightly regulated output, that is only about 3% off.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • caphair
              Badcaps Legend
              • Nov 2011
              • 1249

              #7
              Re: Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

              Ok. What about that voltage regulator? 1.3v seems odd to me but it's steady. Even tried freeze spraying it to see if it'd change (to see if regulator was faulty) but stayed at 1.3v

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              • caphair
                Badcaps Legend
                • Nov 2011
                • 1249

                #8
                Re: Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

                Ok I noticed the processor uses BGA solder. Figured let me try heating it up and seeing if there's any change as I'm familiar with the issue with Xbox 360s etc where over time the solder balls would crack leading to poor connection.

                Well I applied heat for about 5 min and the set fired up after I allowed it to cool. But it immediately froze and stopped responding again.

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                • caphair
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1249

                  #9
                  Re: Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

                  Update: Fixed

                  I reflowed the processor on the main board that's BGA mounted has a little stick on heatsink. It's working perfect now.

                  Hope this helps someone with same model/symptoms

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                  • ReeceyBurger123
                    Never Give Up !
                    • May 2014
                    • 7325
                    • Britain

                    #10
                    Re: Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

                    Awesome good work
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                    • dick_barton
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 6642
                      • Wales

                      #11
                      Re: Polaroid TLA-04641C - No Display/Doesn't power off

                      Well done. It's always good to hear a success story.
                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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