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    #41
    Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

    Originally posted by ivtec View Post
    now i have changed the FP1 with same amperage i had in my scrap boards, and put back jimmys A board since with the A board that came with tv i could get sound now but no OSD, now with Jimmys board i have Video, sound and OSD, tv is running fine,but i have this stripe on the screen see pic attach.
    Pardon me if it feels awkward, but to help comprehension I have replicated the comment that I found confusing from the other thread.

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      #42
      Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

      Hi guy; Update on KDL46S4100, i got the new T-con Board and installed same stripe on the screen,don't you think i'm screwed Panel is bad?now i have all good boards parts for this model and no screen panel?, what a bad luck,please say something,at least a word of comfort thanks for you help and patience, at least it's no all loss,i keep learning more and more everyday, with Badcaps forum,the best there is,i learn alot.thanks
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        #43
        Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

        Panel problem, you can try pressing on the tab bonding or try flexing the panel to see if the condition will change.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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          #44
          Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

          Originally posted by budm View Post
          Panel problem, you can try pressing on the tab bonding or try flexing the panel to see if the condition will change.
          Thanks budm; i open it up to get to the those ribbon flexing cables, press them and nothing.there components on the drivers boards?
          Last edited by ivtec; 03-03-2016, 11:38 AM.

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            #45
            Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

            So you open up the LCD panel to get to the Tab bonding then? Unless those driver IC in that section of the screen is bad.
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              #46
              Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

              Originally posted by budm View Post
              So you open up the LCD panel to get to the Tab bonding then? Unless those driver IC in that section of the screen is bad.
              Thanks budm;when i take off the medal frame i get a diferent stripe line see first pic,on the panel flex boards i only see Resistors and caps,see pics.
              all the flex tapes seem not to be bad like cut traces like i see on some Utube videos everything seems to fine at naked eye!

              Budm do you know what other LCD tv might have this LCD panel?

              i was thinking if i could get an used cheap 46 LCD tv that the panel fit in this Sony , i could make an offer,i think Samsung old lcd tvs use to have same Screen panels,
              i have taken this #'s,i don't know if there are the panel #'s, can you advise on that.thanks
              460H0BSRZLV1.1
              K2187E880Zy3
              046473
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              Last edited by ivtec; 03-03-2016, 01:16 PM.

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                #47
                Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                It seems to me that since the Vertical lines have changed, I would suspect bad bonding of that brown flexible PCB which is attached to the rigid green PCB, that is where you applied pressure on that section to see if the vertical lines changed from more line to less lines or lines are gone when pressure is applied.
                Example of vertical lines due to bad tab bonding.
                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...LN52A530P1FXZA
                Attached Files
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  #48
                  Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                  Originally posted by budm View Post
                  It seems to me that since the Vertical lines have changed, I would suspect bad bonding of that brown flexible PCB which is attached to the rigid green PCB, that is where you applied pressure on that section to see if the vertical lines changed from more line to less lines or lines are gone when pressure is applied.
                  Example of vertical lines due to bad tab bonding.
                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...LN52A530P1FXZA
                  Hi, yes i press those bonding tapes and no change,

                  that 52 " sumsung has exact same metal frame as mine, i wonder if a
                  LN46A530P1FXZA would fit in KDL 46S4100 ?

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                    #49
                    Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                    That panel model number does not look right,
                    it should be something like LTYxxxxxxxx or LTZxxxxxx.

                    LTY460HB10, LTZ460HB10?
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      #50
                      Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                      Originally posted by budm View Post
                      That panel model number does not look right,
                      it should be something like LTYxxxxxxxx or LTZxxxxxx.
                      B10?
                      LTY460HB10, LTZ460H
                      where can i find the right # for kdl46s4100
                      i know nobody sell panels but if i could find another modle that carries same panel,

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                        #51
                        Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                        Pictures of the whole back side of the TV?
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          #52
                          Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                          Originally posted by budm View Post
                          Pictures of the whole back side of the TV?
                          thanksbudm; is this what you want, not very good pics, i'l try on day light,cause i have tv in the cellar has poor light. ?,camera is not very good.

                          Here's a link with better pics;


                          http://www.justanswer.com/tv-repair/...d-46s4100.html
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                          Last edited by ivtec; 03-03-2016, 05:42 PM.

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                            #53
                            Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                            I think the LCD panel number sticker is under the metal plate that the main board is attached to.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              #54
                              Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                              See page 103:
                              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...439#post636439
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                #55
                                Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                                Panel Sticker Number: LTZ460HB08, LTY460HB08?

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                                  #56
                                  Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                                  Originally posted by budm View Post
                                  I think the LCD panel number sticker is under the metal plate that the main board is attached to.
                                  Thanks bunm; i found this too

                                  https://www.encompassparts.com/item/..._46_Lty460hb08

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                                    #57
                                    Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                                    Originally posted by Malachi View Post
                                    Panel Sticker Number: LTZ460HB08, LTY460HB08?
                                    thanks Malachi LCD PANEL 46 LTY460


                                    Part #: 1-802-650-13

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                                      #58
                                      Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                                      Originally posted by ivtec View Post

                                      Also Who would dare to pay 1.200.00, unless one is out of his mind ,you can get a modern tv for 350 bucks new

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                                        #59
                                        Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                                        Originally posted by ivtec View Post
                                        Also Who would dare to pay 1.200.00, unless one is out of his mind ,you can get a modern tv for 350 bucks new
                                        Also found out compatible LCD Panel with


                                        46" CLASS BRAVIA SL SERIES LCD TV (45.5" DIAGONALL

                                        Sony KDL46V4100 BRAVIA V SERIES LCD TELEVISION
                                        Sony KDL46S4100 BRAVIA S SERIES LCD TELEVISION
                                        Sony KDL46SL140

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                                          #60
                                          Re: Sony KDL-46S4100 no pic or sound help.

                                          Hi guys; Update on Sony Stripes on the LCD screen,i don't think this will make any difference but i'd like you opinion.
                                          As i said with the frame on the stripe is larger , when i take off frame it gets thinner, but i learned in order for the stripe to get thinner i have to take off the frame and reboot TV or turn off and on TV,if i take frame off with TV on there is no effect on the larger stripe,
                                          i'd like to here your take on this.
                                          Also i measure all the caps and resistors on the the Panel assembly board,and on most of the R or caps i measure 3.3v, 7v,15v, or so on one side and the other side i get on most SMT components about 0.350 or so,.
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                                          Last edited by ivtec; 03-04-2016, 10:22 AM.

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