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  • s_henya
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2011
    • 480
    • Israel

    #1

    Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

    Hi guys,

    Got this set, with not powering issue.

    I have a red light on the front panel (maybe standby) on and on the touch buttons.

    I have 24vdc on the inverter - but with no backlight.

    on touching the touch buttons i can hear beeps.

    i got 409vdc on main filter cap.

    on touching the power button i can't seem to power it off/ on i have steady 24vdc on the inverter.

    tried the flashlight trick but got nothing.

    i want to force start the psu and the inverter alone to isolate logic card fault.

    need your help with this one, the connector legend isn't clear.
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  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

    The power supply is woprking and it is getting the PS-ON to turn on the PFC Voltage booster circuit to produce the 409VDC on the main cap and the 24VDC for the Inverter board.
    For the backlights to be on you have to have the BL-ON (>2.5VDC = ON, >1VDC = OFF), and the DIM control signal.
    If you do have the control signals but still no backlights then you have ineverter board problem. So look at the labels on the inverter board connector to find those required signals.
    I can see the ON/OFF (BL-ON) pin 12 but I cannot read the rest of the labels, pictures are way too out of focus.
    The fuse on the inverter board is OK, right?
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...5&d=1437243126
    Last edited by budm; 07-18-2015, 01:26 PM.
    Never stop learning
    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

    Inverter testing using old CFL:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

    TV Factory reset codes listing:
    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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    • s_henya
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jan 2011
      • 480
      • Israel

      #3
      Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

      Thanks for replying budm,

      how do you suggest turning on the backlights?

      and what in your opinion the reason for not being able to turning the tv on/off?

      what voltages should i get on the connector on the inverter from the psu?

      (im not sure its lcd, maybe led) only 2 transformers and anly 2 wires to the backlight.

      (and YES the fuse is good- it was the first thing i checked :-) )
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      Last edited by s_henya; 07-18-2015, 01:35 PM.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

        "and what in your opinion the reason for not being able to turning the tv on/off?" That is the indcation of the main board problem and may be that is why it is not sending the ON/OF signal to the inverter board ON/OFF pin that you need to check.

        "what voltages should i get on the connector on the inverter from the psu?"
        Reply on post #2 "If you do have the control signals but still no backlights then you have ineverter board problem. So look at the labels on the inverter board connector to find those required signals.
        I can see the ON/OFF (BL-ON) pin 12 but I cannot read the rest of the labels, pictures are way too out of focus.
        The fuse on the inverter board is OK, right?
        "
        So check the DCV on that ON/OFF pin when TV is turned on.
        Your TV uses CCFL not LEDs for backlights. the LCD panle lookS to be made by LG, you can see LG printed on the inverter board.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • s_henya
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jan 2011
          • 480
          • Israel

          #5
          Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

          ON CN1 (inverter board):
          PINS 1-5 : 24.79VDC (VIN)
          PINS 6-10: 0VDC (GND)
          PI 11: 0VDC (NC)
          PIN 12: 0.07VDC (ON/OFF)
          PIN 13: 0.037VDC (VBR_B) (maybe brightness?)
          PIN 14: 0.004VDC (STATUS)

          this means that the logic board isn't sending the on signal to the inverter right?

          could i simulate this signal by 1k resistor to GND OR 5V?

          i don't know if its active on LOW or HIGH.

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          • s_henya
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jan 2011
            • 480
            • Israel

            #6
            Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

            what do you think?

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            • CapLeaker
              Leaking Member
              • Dec 2014
              • 7964
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

              Your BLon signal isn't there.

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              • s_henya
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Jan 2011
                • 480
                • Israel

                #8
                Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                so this means i have a bad mainboard?

                what do think, this one might suit? RSAG7.820.1621 (the original was RSAG7.820.1856)

                http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hisense-Sign.../221829433473?

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                • CapLeaker
                  Leaking Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 7964
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                  make double sure that the BLon signal is not getting sent at the main board, before do anything. As far as the other main board goes, make sure it is compatible to the original one. It doesn't have to be the exact same, but it has to be compatible. I am not sure if that board on ebay is compatible or not. You would have to figure out in what TV that board was in.

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                  • s_henya
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 480
                    • Israel

                    #10
                    Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                    just ordered a mainboard from http://world.taobao.com/item/4262474...?fromSite=main

                    hope it will solve the problem.

                    I will update as soon as i will get it.

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                    • s_henya
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 480
                      • Israel

                      #11
                      Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                      Some progress:

                      I got the mainboard from china, got a little mad for being fooled by the Taobao agent:

                      'Taobeo Focus'- don't buy from him. he overweight your package so the shipping fee would be much higher.

                      this mainboard weighs 350grams. and the whole package weighs 1.15kg.

                      800gr of cardbox in cardbox in cardbox. instead of 5-10$ for delivery i payed 35$ for delivery only!

                      Back to the Tv:

                      now i can get it to power. the thing is that this mainboard was designed to work on a 42" instaed of 37". the control panel (touch buttons connector is 3 pins instead of 4)
                      i replaced the connector but still no luck. i can see that in my failed board i have an extra resistor which doesn't exist on my new board. i will try to transfer it carefully as it is very small.

                      i dont have the original remote. so maybe buying a universal remote would do.
                      any help on that too would be great!

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                      • CapLeaker
                        Leaking Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 7964
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                        Some main boards allow you change the screen size (37 vs 42") but that has to be done in service mode of the main board.

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                        • s_henya
                          Badcaps Veteran
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 480
                          • Israel

                          #13
                          Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                          I took the resistor from the failed board, showed almost 0 ohms.
                          So i just replaced it with a short. i have lights on the touch buttons and i can hear beeps upon touching. but only the power button gives something->opens the menu. :-(

                          i tried setting the cable company remote to work on the TV, it semi works,
                          by pressing the numbers i can power, and visit the menu. and source as well.

                          i have a perfect picture on hdmi1 but no sound. i can't set the volume scale.

                          i have to get a remote for this tv. anyone knows a good universal remote for Hisense?

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                          • CapLeaker
                            Leaking Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 7964
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                            Acoustic Research, Logitech... those can learn codes too

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                            • s_henya
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 480
                              • Israel

                              #15
                              Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                              I tried another remote,

                              now i can power, source, vol +-

                              I still got a perfect picture but no sound (tried SCART & HDMI).

                              maybe i recieved a faulty mainboard.

                              i can transfer parts from the old mainboard, but i never fixed a 'no sound issue' before

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                              • CapLeaker
                                Leaking Member
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 7964
                                • Canada

                                #16
                                Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                                Do you get any sound at all? Try the TV channels. If not, check if the sound IC is getting proper voltage or for shorts?

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                                • s_henya
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Jan 2011
                                  • 480
                                  • Israel

                                  #17
                                  Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                                  No sound at all.

                                  i found one smd cap broken missing on the back of the board, trasfered it from the faulty board but still no luck.

                                  cant seem to find the audio ic. maybe it's behind the metal bezel

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                                  • CapLeaker
                                    Leaking Member
                                    • Dec 2014
                                    • 7964
                                    • Canada

                                    #18
                                    Re: Hisense LCD37V88P not powering

                                    must be underneath that metal shield that's where the traces go anyway.

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