M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

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  • dfang
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    • Feb 2013
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    #41
    Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

    Ok so I jumped 5v to on/off pin and 5v to PS_ON as well ..the results are still no 24v,,, of coarse no LED back lights...This is what I've got for voltages at PS now..
    ON-OFF=4.24vdc
    DIM=3.28vdc
    12v=2.52vdc
    12v=2.53vdc
    GND=0vdc
    GND=0vdc
    GND=0vdc
    24v=0vdc
    24v=0vdc
    PS_ON=4.24vdc
    5.2v=5.14vdc
    5.2v=5.14vdc
    ACD=0vdc

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
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      #42
      Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

      What range are you using on your meter? Can you test using the 200V range instead? (If it's autoranging, ignore this.)
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • newtothis
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        • Mar 2013
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        #43
        Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

        I was thinking same as you Tom but the 5v is showing correctly so dismissed it

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        • tom66
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          • Apr 2011
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          #44
          Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

          Crazy thought, but what if, for example, the left most "1" digit on his meter did not work properly? This would rule this out...
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • newtothis
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            • Mar 2013
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            #45
            Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

            Originally posted by tom66
            Crazy thought, but what if, for example, the left most "1" digit on his meter did not work properly? This would rule this out...
            Hmmm,

            If you cant do as Tom asked and set too 200 range -

            can you confirm 0v on the 24v rails after forcing the backlights on?

            If that is that case tom we should see ~4v otherwise the PSU is indeed at fault
            Last edited by newtothis; 04-22-2015, 10:44 AM.

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            • dfang
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              #46
              Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

              I've got Fluke ET-23 a old one,,but,,it works fine...It's manual ranging..I tried all ranges ..Could the PS power on voltage need to be greater than 4.24 volts ? I looked on the net for a main board and couldn't find one ,,,every one is out of stock...Must be a run on these babies..

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              • newtothis
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                #47
                Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                So what exactly does it show on 200 range?

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                • dfang
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                  #48
                  Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                  Ok,,first off I guess my Fluke is autoranging...I did a test with jumper resistors and realized that when the set is first plugged in the VIZIO logo will blink bright white 35 times then stop,,it is the back lights blinking...With meter on one of the 24v lines at the PS,,I see the voltage as high as 11.72vdc,,but it happens so fast the meter can't read the full correct voltage..After the 35 blinks and press TV power on backlight gives a very quick flash and that is it until you unplug/plug in and it starts the dance again..So the PS must be capable of lighting the backlights ,,,just will not stay on..
                  Attached Files

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                  • newtothis
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                    • Mar 2013
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                    #49
                    Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                    Ok so that confirms the PSU is shutting down for some reason.

                    Not sure if the PSU will stay on without the backlight load but try disconnecting the backlights from the PSU and forcing it on again

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                    • dfang
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                      #50
                      Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                      Originally posted by newtothis
                      Ok so that confirms the PSU is shutting down for some reason.

                      Not sure if the PSU will stay on without the backlight load but try disconnecting the backlights from the PSU and forcing it on again
                      Humm...disconnected backlights from PSU and forcing it on I get nothing on 24V lines... I reconnected backlights and now not even varying voltage on 24v pins on PS connector when plugged in.. I'm doing harm to this tv..

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                      • newtothis
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                        #51
                        Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                        Originally posted by dfang
                        Humm...disconnected backlights from PSU and forcing it on I get nothing on 24V lines... I reconnected backlights and now not even varying voltage on 24v pins on PS connector when plugged in.. I'm doing harm to this tv..
                        Varying voltage? You listed it as 0v every test

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                        • truep
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                          #52
                          Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                          Maybe the ac detect is shutting it down??

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                          • truep
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                            #53
                            Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                            That's the acd pin

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                            • dfang
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                              #54
                              Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                              I'm back to square one,,,I found a bad connection with my resistor jumpers at Main board connector..
                              Now with forced PS operation I get 14.47v at 24v pins...backlights blink off and on rapidly when tv is plugged in..Used DVA adapter on my Fluke to capture the max voltage..Something is shutting down PS...Don't know what else to try ..

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                              • dfang
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                                #55
                                Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                                Any more suggestions ? I hate to give up,,but,,looks like the cost of boards to try (if they can be found) are not worth the TV..I do appreciate the help and did learn some things for future repair attempts..

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                                • newtothis
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                                  #56
                                  Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                                  This is with main disconnected correct? And the backlights are flashing with jumping volatges?

                                  Do you have 2 jumpers in place? One for PS_ON and one for backlights?

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                                  • dfang
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                                    #57
                                    Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                                    Originally posted by newtothis
                                    This is with main disconnected correct? And the backlights are flashing with jumping volatges?

                                    Do you have 2 jumpers in place? One for PS_ON and one for backlights?
                                    I have jumper for PS_ON and ON-OFF..

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                                    • newtothis
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                                      #58
                                      Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                                      Originally posted by dfang
                                      I have jumper for PS_ON and ON-OFF..
                                      Ok remove jumper to ON/OFF and retest voltages, They should come in spec. Reconnect main and make sure we are back to the original fault

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                                      • dfang
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                                        #59
                                        Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                                        Originally posted by newtothis
                                        Ok remove jumper to ON/OFF and retest voltages, They should come in spec. Reconnect main and make sure we are back to the original fault
                                        Ok,,,disconnected ON/OFF jumper but left 5.2v jumped to PS_ON at main board connector,,,,no voltage on 24v pins at PS connector and no backlights..

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                                        • newtothis
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                                          #60
                                          Re: M421VT LED Screen Color Distortion

                                          What I expected to see, Reconnect main and make sure we are at the original fault.

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