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  • alex987
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    • May 2015
    • 11
    • italy

    #121
    Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

    Thanks mate for the suggestion.

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    • tibimakai
      Badcaps Legend
      • Jan 2012
      • 3680
      • USA

      #122
      Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

      Guys, get the real stuff, these copies or look a likes, are not the same!
      I have purchased these in the beginning and I have realized, that I'm just struggling with these tools and then, I had to buy the real stuff and at the end, I ended spending more. It's a joy working with the real stuff.
      I have got the Hakko tool, which is not much more expensive, if you buy it at the right time(when the price is lower) and it works as expected, or even better then expected.

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      • alex987
        Member
        • May 2015
        • 11
        • italy

        #123
        Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

        @ lookimback:

        You can buy the heating element here:
        http://www.sra-solder.com/c088-heati...esoldering-gun

        It costs $15

        I suppose this is the 110V version; 220V version should be different part number.
        Last edited by alex987; 05-16-2015, 02:11 AM.

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        • Agent24
          I see dead caps
          • Oct 2007
          • 4913
          • New Zealand

          #124
          Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

          But is it worth it for something that was already broken twice in rapid succession?

          Maybe - if you used it to 'repair' the 8800, flog it off on eBay ASAP, then use the funds towards a Hakko...
          "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
          -David VanHorn

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          • alex987
            Member
            • May 2015
            • 11
            • italy

            #125
            Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

            About the Hakko FR-300 here there are a lot of people having heating element issue.
            http://www.amazon.com/Hakko-FR300-05...ct_top?ie=UTF8

            Ah, about the pump motor, try to read this review:
            http://www.amazon.com/review/RB7LNF2...28013&store=hi

            It seems it isn't a good design...


            So, better to spend less (for an 8800) hoping it longer last, or spend more than double for an FR300, which seems to have some issues?
            Last edited by alex987; 05-16-2015, 08:37 AM.

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            • Agent24
              I see dead caps
              • Oct 2007
              • 4913
              • New Zealand

              #126
              Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

              Hakko 808 is a better idea
              "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
              -David VanHorn

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              • lookimback
                Badcaps Legend
                • Aug 2013
                • 1489
                • USA

                #127
                Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                Fixed. It was around $21.50 with shipping. It works good, but has a real flimsy feel to it. I know it won't last a year of regular use. I considered selling it on eBay Agent24, but I wouldn't risk tarnishing my reputation. I'll use it until it breaks again, I have to get some use out of it to minimize my losses, but once it breaks again I'll toss it and get a Hakko.
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                • saddle_au
                  Waste Warrior
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 121
                  • Australia

                  #128
                  Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                  I had both the Hakko desoldering station and hand held units and after 10 years of solid use, my Hakko handheld self-destructed. It had three screws through springs holding the barrel on and two of them gave way suddenly and it went 'bang' in my hand. The desk unit (soldering and sucking station) died about half a year later, again releasing piles of electronic smoke.

                  In all, quality lasts but there comes a point where replacement makes sense no-matter who makes it.

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                  • lookimback
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1489
                    • USA

                    #129
                    Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                    I have a paperweight again. I used this last night for about 2 hours straight. I had 5 power supplies to rebuild, each with 9 components to remove. Towards the end, the pump started seizing up, it had no suction, and one of the screws which hold the tip assembly in melted out. Now, I just turned it on and the element is burned out again. These things are very poorly designed and are definitely not intended to be used. I won't waste my money fixing it again.
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                    • Agent24
                      I see dead caps
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4913
                      • New Zealand

                      #130
                      Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                      Wow, that is astoundingly bad quality, even for a Chinese junker.
                      "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                      -David VanHorn

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                      • lookimback
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1489
                        • USA

                        #131
                        Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                        And prior to last night, I'd only used it for a few minutes on a couple occasions. I had the temp on 480°C, I wonder if It's over powering the element?
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                        • stj
                          Great Sage 齊天大聖
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 30919
                          • Albion

                          #132
                          Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                          i wonder if it's not a 24/36v element!!

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                          • lookimback
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1489
                            • USA

                            #133
                            Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                            I think it's 120v
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                            • stj
                              Great Sage 齊天大聖
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 30919
                              • Albion

                              #134
                              Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                              it *should* be, but that's not what i meant!

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                              • Agent24
                                I see dead caps
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4913
                                • New Zealand

                                #135
                                Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                                Originally posted by lookimback
                                And prior to last night, I'd only used it for a few minutes on a couple occasions. I had the temp on 480°C, I wonder if It's over powering the element?
                                Maybe the temperature control is shorted and driving it full tilt all the time.
                                All the reviews on Amazon give it 5 stars. Admittedly, there are only 4 of them, though.
                                "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                -David VanHorn

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                                • dj_ricoh
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Jan 2013
                                  • 2073
                                  • uk

                                  #136
                                  Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                                  i got this.
                                  it was the cheapest one because i use to much wick on power supply to learn how to fix them

                                  the only prob is the internal vent its making a noise after 2 weeks but i know why. moisture in basement.
                                  the max temp i use it its 380c. it does the job flawless
                                  Attached Files
                                  Just cook it! It's already broken.

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                                  • stj
                                    Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                    • Dec 2009
                                    • 30919
                                    • Albion

                                    #137
                                    Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                                    those are from Ningbo Zhongdi Industry & Trade Co., Ltd.
                                    http://www.china-zhongdi.com/index.asp

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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #138
                                      Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                                      Originally posted by lookimback
                                      And prior to last night, I'd only used it for a few minutes on a couple occasions. I had the temp on 480°C, I wonder if It's over powering the element?
                                      480C is way too hot anyway... on my old 968 it would make the element glow bright orange.
                                      I would use 360-400C for hot air. Maybe that'll make it last a little longer.
                                      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                      • alex987
                                        Member
                                        • May 2015
                                        • 11
                                        • italy

                                        #139
                                        Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                                        Originally posted by lookimback
                                        And prior to last night, I'd only used it for a few minutes on a couple occasions. I had the temp on 480°C, I wonder if It's over powering the element?
                                        I took the risk and I bought one (220V version).
                                        It works fine; no complaint to date.
                                        I set the temperature to 350C.

                                        Maybe is 480C too high temperature?
                                        Why did you use this high temp? (in my opinion, 350C is good for both single and double layer pcbs)
                                        Last edited by alex987; 06-14-2015, 05:14 PM.

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                                        • lookimback
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Aug 2013
                                          • 1489
                                          • USA

                                          #140
                                          Re: New tool, Aoyue 8800! Desoldering just got easy!

                                          It was set that high when I got it, I never really thought about it. I keep my iron set to about 365, I don't know why I never thought to turn it down.
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