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  • shelby5041
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2009
    • 1505
    • united states of america usa

    #41
    Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

    well if the sensor is shutting off inverter circuit then when i check bl=on pin i should get zero volt reading...that will be the key in this troubleshooting i think is the bl-on status when backlight goes off

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #42
      Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

      Originally posted by nomoresonys
      just noticed, this is the exact model Im working on.
      I forget what your TV is not doing.
      Never stop learning
      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

      Inverter testing using old CFL:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

      TV Factory reset codes listing:
      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #43
        Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

        Originally posted by shelby5041
        well if the sensor is shutting off inverter circuit then when i check bl=on pin i should get zero volt reading...that will be the key in this troubleshooting i think is the bl-on status when backlight goes off
        The error signal is not fed back to the main board to shutdown the BL_ON, it shuts down the inverter circuits and BL_ON will still be present if the error occurs.
        The TV would have gone into standby or shutdown if the error signal is used by the main board.
        Last edited by budm; 01-30-2015, 11:21 PM.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • shelby5041
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2009
          • 1505
          • united states of america usa

          #44
          Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

          oh ...

          the backlight goes off randomly after powering tv on.....5 min 15 min 1 hr 2 hrs etc

          i can watch tv fine good picture good sound etc etc...but then backlight goes off at random time..........if i wait 10 min and power tv back on it is fine again until a random time

          .....so far when i power the tv on after not using for a while the tv always powers on with backlight working.......its just that after tv is on for random time the backlights will go out

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          • shelby5041
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            • Feb 2009
            • 1505
            • united states of america usa

            #45
            Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

            ok so bl-on can still be present ...if the sensor senses a bad lamp and shuts down inverter curcuit.....ill check voltages on the other ps to main output when i get home.......when bl on and when bl off

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #46
              Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

              Originally posted by shelby5041
              oh ...

              the backlight goes off randomly after powering tv on.....5 min 15 min 1 hr 2 hrs etc

              i can watch tv fine good picture good sound etc etc...but then backlight goes off at random time..........if i wait 10 min and power tv back on it is fine again until a random time

              .....so far when i power the tv on after not using for a while the tv always powers on with backlight working.......its just that after tv is on for random time the backlights will go out
              That what makes it hard, you have to be ready to make some measurement when it goes out.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • shelby5041
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2009
                • 1505
                • united states of america usa

                #47
                Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                if i had to make a guess without doing anymore troubleshooting i would guess the issue is in the transformer area.......seems to be a time/heat issue

                but thats just my novice guess...i dont think its a bad lamp causing it since its intermittent.........a bad lamp would trigger fault all the time same time i would think,....and since i have good voltages i dont think its bad caps....

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                • shelby5041
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1505
                  • united states of america usa

                  #48
                  Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                  right now i have the tv taken aprt at home laying on table so i will power it on like that take voltages on all the pins then when it goes off ill take readings again

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                  • shelby5041
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1505
                    • united states of america usa

                    #49
                    Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                    but i dont get home until 8a eastern time ...so until then have a good night and thank you very much i learned alot so far.......good thing about this is .i can get this power supply and main board cheap on ebay less than $30.00 .....cheap fix.....im just hoping its not a lamp issue.....

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #50
                      Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                      You should do real good visual inspection on the board and touch up any suspect looking joints. You cannot make it go out if you poke around with plastic stick?
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • shelby5041
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1505
                        • united states of america usa

                        #51
                        Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                        another thing i was thinking it it could be is a cap thats starting to go bad.....even though it looks good.....hence intermittent.....i have seen this before....

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                        • shelby5041
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1505
                          • united states of america usa

                          #52
                          Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                          havent tried.....the guy on you tube would tap on the trans and the backlgiht would go on and off bad solder.....its a good video

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                          • shelby5041
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1505
                            • united states of america usa

                            #53
                            Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                            here is the link to video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdsDxKkcesg

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                            • budm
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 40746
                              • USA

                              #54
                              Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                              This board uses those eyelets for large component legs like the transformer. So look real close or just resolder all the pins on the transformer and those legs of the components mounted to the heatsink.

                              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...2&d=1422648922
                              Last edited by budm; 01-30-2015, 11:44 PM.
                              Never stop learning
                              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                              Inverter testing using old CFL:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                              TV Factory reset codes listing:
                              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                              • nomoresonys
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 12276
                                • U.S.

                                #55
                                Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                Originally posted by budm
                                I forget what your TV is not doing.
                                mine is just a snowy screen, can't see menu, pretty sure its the mainboard, just can't seem to track it down to component.

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                                • nomoresonys
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Jan 2013
                                  • 12276
                                  • U.S.

                                  #56
                                  Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                  was wondering if it was the c102, like you fixed on yours, but its not screeching or going on and off?

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                                  • shelby5041
                                    Badcaps Legend
                                    • Feb 2009
                                    • 1505
                                    • united states of america usa

                                    #57
                                    Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                    i may have found the problem as youtube video showed

                                    under transformer is a severe cracked solder joint....im going to solder and let u know of it fixes.....its same joint as youtube video i posted...common issue with this model.....i kind of fogured this would be it sonce the way tv acted..i hope it fixes it

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                                    • shelby5041
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Feb 2009
                                      • 1505
                                      • united states of america usa

                                      #58
                                      Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                      here is a pic of a bad solder joint of some sort..not sure if its critical or just a support joint for housing but its the exact same joint as inthe youtube video i posted prior that someone had exact same problem im having so hopefully resoldering it will fix it

                                      i bought the tv for 10.00 from a guy who said pic would go out now and then..i used the tv for about 3 months and picture wouldnt go out like he said....but now it does and im hoping this will fix it...it would be a zero cost fix which are the kind i love
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                                      • shelby5041
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2009
                                        • 1505
                                        • united states of america usa

                                        #59
                                        Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                        i was going to work on resoldering it today but had snow blower issues i had to deal with...we are getting 1 foot of snow tonight so i had to make sure i was ready...tv repair will have to wait.......i brought board to work and will resolder it here and will test when i get home tomorrow

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                                        • budm
                                          Badcaps Legend
                                          • Feb 2010
                                          • 40746
                                          • USA

                                          #60
                                          Re: Samsung 40inch lcd tv backlight goes off sound good

                                          When you do the rework on the board, make sure to use flux.
                                          Never stop learning
                                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

                                          Comment

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